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Could use some help. I traded a Beretta O/U for a damascus barreled lever lock 16 hammer gun with back action locks and modest engraving. This doesn't thin the herd, but does bring in some more interesting stock!

My questions are:
Has anyone any knowledge of a P Werlig in Ferlach?
What is the DOB? Quite hard to read! Is the *9840 the serial No.?
What would be the damascus pattern?
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Hope the pictures work, things like this get pretty cryptic for 72 year olds!

Thanks for any insights!

Welder

The proofs seem to be of the earlier kind, 1882-1891; Ferlach, to be sure.

A true Jones underlever would have a stronger T bolting; this is a simpler one, a derivative of the old Lefaucheux type.

Cheers,
Jani

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=626222#Post626222

There looks to be a datastring in the red paint & if so, that would date it post 1897. More than likely you are going to have to >>chalk<< the marks in order to bring them out for viewing.

Lep Pozdrav,

Raimey
rse

Raimey: Great to see your posts again!!!

Glad to be of the slightest assistance.



I think this to be the preliminary datastring on the 1st pass....



I think this to be the final datastring for the final pass..... I cannot accurately read the diameter though; 16.8mm??

Too, I will have to default to Jani for the date range..... My guess is early 1890s....

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

what might be the actual diameter of the shot tube?

If both of those datastrings are for the final pass, then there should be a preliminary datasting on the lower rib?

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Preliminary Datastring....



Final pass Datastring....

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forum...rds=ferlacher&Search=true#Post642233

I carry & shoot a Ferlach Biksarica(Biks) almost every day but in either 8X57R/360 or or the 24 bore X 500 Express above..... I just checked several Ferlacher hahn guns & >>16.0<< & >>16.2<< are very common on the final pass for a bore diameter.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Back to the topic of discussion, might you take a glass or loupe and scan down the lower rib out past the forend iron? There should be a preliminary datastring....

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

I had pondered on the 43 Egyptian or the 11X52R Beaumont M71/78(11.6mm) cartridge but the dims of those cartridges are not close?

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Hum, Ok......, 45-70.... I didn't even consider that. Pleasure us with an image after you fire-form some brass.

https://naboje.org/en/taxonomy/term/19

Pretty neat cartridge website that I used to load a 400 Express:

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forum...mp;Words=10mm&Search=true#Post569912

Serbus,

Raimey
rse