TSS #9 in 20-gauge pump is my usual. Backup is a 12-gauge semi-auto also with TSS #9. I have killed a few with my 12-gauge LC Smith using high brass 2 3/4-inch factory shells before I learned better. If I use the Elsie again for turkey hunting, I will hand-load 7/8- or 1-oz #6 lead loads for it. I had the stock glass bedded last year and intend to be gentler with it.