I have made so many concoctions over the last 45 years it really stinks when you put all this work in to a project then you get the news so and so has the best concoction for finishing wood it's a miracle so you try it it gums on a full stock Tennessee rifle so you strip it and start over oh boy the tapestry of sware words still floating around the universe.lee shaver did some great work for me so I tend to believe him