Thanks, KY-= they are not mine- FWIWIP- I have never owned a .410 bore shotgun in all my life, and I'm gainin' on 80. This flat of Peters Paper shells 2&1/2" no. 9 skeet loads belongs to a friend, and can understand why he might pick this smaller op. auction house in MI- as they are within driving distance, so no shipping cost. I am of the opinion that he is looking to gain additional $ from the collector value of the older shell boxes, all packed and sealed, so the shell boxes might rate a NIB classification. RWTF