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DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Jump to new posts
Re: Anyone here who knows the workings of the 92 Winch Kutter 11/07/25 09:34 PM
The ejector on the face of the bolt on the 92 is spring loaded inward as the cartridge is fed into the chamber and then the bolt is closed.
About like what happens in a 700 Remington.

As the cartridge is extracted from the chamber the ejector puts that spring tension onto the rear of the cartridge and trys to tip it upward.
The cartridge stays in the chamber obviously until the extractor has pulled it all the way clear of the chamber.
Then that spring tension flips the case/cartridge upwards once
it clears the top edge of the rifles chamber.

If the ejector spring (a simple coil spring) is too heavy, it will make extraction seem hard, rough as the case is dragging it's way out of the chamber under that heavy spring tension.
Just operating the lever to open the action with a case in the chamber (loaded rd or an empty) will seem harder to do than with an empty chamber.

It does however provide spectacular ejection trajectory if that's what you want!
It's better to settle for simple ejection and smoother functioning IMO.
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Re: Forearm Shapes and Hand Position earlyriser 11/07/25 09:25 PM
All of the responses here have been very helpful. Thank you all!
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Re: New to me J.P. Sauer drilling. ohiochuck 11/07/25 09:12 PM
photos?
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Re: Added another Westley to the collection. ed good 11/07/25 08:02 PM
nice...big ole thang...
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Re: WTB 410 SXS Hammer Gun BrentD, Prof 11/07/25 06:12 PM
Originally Posted by battle
Originally Posted by Parabola
The Patstone .410 at Harper Field made a hammer price of £600 (so much for the £40 to £60 “estimate”).

I have previously owned 2 12-bore hammer guns by Patstone. Both with Scott patents and fairly certainly made by W.C. Scott.

Yeah i was watching that one.

I almost called you about going after that one myself.
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Re: Newby SxS Double Lover ed good 11/07/25 04:03 PM
watts ah matta...

you boys don wanna play no mo...
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A public service announcement... Lloyd3 11/06/25 08:47 PM
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A bit late in the year to really help anyone but...this stuff was recommended to me by a local Jackpine Savage last year so I went looking for it early last spring. I'd have to say that it works remarkably well.

Combine this with treating your hunting cloths with Permethrin first (and allowing it to dry) and then use this product on your exposed skin. I would have had an almost bite-free year this year (if only I had followed my own advice). On one of my last days afield up north, it had frosted very heavily overnight and I put on lined jeans that I had not pre-treated. There were no obvious insects to be found anywhere and I passed on this stuff too, only to find myself in the middle of a deep tangle looking for a bird that had "towered" on me (I never did find it). What I did find the next morning was an embedded tick on my chest.

A prophylactic dose of doxycycline immediately thereafter and it all seems to be good for now. How foolish of me, eh?

The folks who work in the woods that I'm hunting in "up nort" swear by it. I had to order it online as I've never encountered it anywhere else.
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Re: Meyer Chalon Ted Schefelbein 11/06/25 08:45 PM
Darryl,
See your PMs.

Best,
Ted
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Re: What is this thing worth? Little Creek 11/06/25 02:26 PM
Sounds like you want money, not the gun. Cabelas gun rooms around the country will buy for cash but give a 20% discount on value based on condition. Caution. I purchased a "grandpa's" gun from a Cabelas store in WI. I got it for less money than the former owner had in into the gun. The seller must have gotten a pretty low price for the piece. There are other options to sell: Gunbrokers auction site and GunsAmerica (not an auction) for two.

Suggest you visit a really competent gunsmith/dealer before you do anything. People on this site will help you find a 'smith/dealer if you give your location.

Good Luck!
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Re: Looking for gunsmith to recut chokes Stanton Hillis 11/06/25 02:24 AM
I'm sure Pfrommer and Schwarz could.
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Re: Who knows LC Smith's? Stanton Hillis 11/06/25 01:45 AM
Feather weight with extractors and fluid steel barrels.
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Re: WTB: Laurel Mtn Barrel Brown CJ Dawe 11/06/25 01:25 AM
Just order direct from laurel mountain
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Re: Favorite Game/Gun Pictures 2025 Season BrentD, Prof 11/06/25 01:22 AM
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We finished with some diversity today, within and among.


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Re: OT: A Forest in Slovenia montenegrin 11/05/25 07:03 PM
Boon,
Woodcock is closed for hunting in Slovenia due to its status of protected animal species. But they are available to foreign hunters in nearby Croatia (priced at 40 euros apiece or 150 euros per day's hunt).

Cheers,
Jani
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Re: Extra set of barrels cost? Tim Cartmell 11/05/25 05:43 PM
When I custom ordered a sxs shotgun back in 2010, the dealer informed me that an extra set of barrels would cost an additional 35% the list price of the gun.
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Gavin Gardner 10 ga. Reilly - things to ponder Argo44 11/05/25 05:02 PM
Gavin Gardner is advertising this 10 bore Reilly SN "1920". - Est: £500 GBP - £700 GBP
E. M. REILLY A 10-BORE HAMMER GUN, NO. 1928 30-inch damascus barrels with 3-inch chambers, about improved cylinder borings (comment: wrong - cylinder bore), the frame, rebounding bar locks, hammers and top lever with fine scroll engraving, retaining faint traces of original hardening colour, Walker's patent action, 14-inch figured stock with semi pistol grip (comment: normal for Reilly shotguns 10 ga and larger) and steel butt plate, 8lb., nitro re-proof S1
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-...queryID=f7ce49ffd3d7fd218341016319bc798e
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This gun was discussed about 20 years ago on Internet gun club. The commentary contains a much more complete description of the gun.
. . .-- the IGC response was wrong on Reilly history but was probably as good as they had at that moment and just repeated a lot of old "urban legends" about Reilly (addressed on the Reilly line and history).
. . .-- However, it did have one glaring error which pops up occasionally on both Gavin and Holt's: i.e. "Tiger" assumes that every UK proofed shotgun after 1875 had to have had the proof mark "Not for Ball". This is not true; it would only have the stamp if the gun were choke bored. Many many UK guns continued to be cylinder bored up to the early 1880's. I have examples.

In any event IGC did get the date of the gun right 1874. The Reilly date chart on p,57 dates it to mid 1874 whether the SN is 19206 or 19286. IGC chose 19286. I would use 19206 as on the barrels and fore-end but it doesn't make much difference for the dating chart.

IGC comment - from the Reilly Database:
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19286. 19206

https://www.internetgunclub.com/archived-forum/posts.php?topicid=1344

I am a new member to this excellent forum and would value some assistance on the aforementioned gun. A little bit of current information;

- 10 bore hammergun, rebounding hammers, breech face in good condition with no pitting; some relatively basic scroll engraving. Table reads "H Walker's 1098 Patent"
- 30 inch Damascus barrels, excellent condition with v minor exterior pitting in some areas. Game/concave rib, wedge and escutcheon fore-end; recently nitro-proofed
- Semi pistol grip stock with original heel plate; some minor marking and one small (1cm) chip out of stock close to action.

Confusingly, the gun has a slight difference in serial numbers; the table reads 19286, the barrels and foreend 19206, the trigger guard 1928 – could the table be a mistaken number? Any help on assessing what the proof marks mean would be most helpful!

Guidance on history, originality and possible value would be greatly appreciated. I would like to use the gun ongoing for ‘fowling so am genuinely keen to find out more. A brief review of the history of Reilly could indicate manufacture between 1869-1872 (due to Paris address), but happy to be proven wrong here.

Guidance on history, originality and possible value would be greatly appreciated. I would like to use the gun ongoing for ‘fowling so am genuinely keen to find out more. A brief review of the history of Reilly could indicate manufacture between 1869-1872 (due to Paris address), but happy to be proven wrong here.

P.S. I cannot get photos onto this posting despite following directions. Any hints appreciated as I have several which may aid the identification of this gun

++++++++++++++response from IGC “Tiger”++++++++++++++++++

As far as we know, the Reillys, like most gunmakers, bought the various components and assembled them, or bought almost complete guns "in-the-white", stocked and finished them, and put their name on them. Although this gun has London proof marks, all of it is likely to have been made in Birmingham. Nothing wrong with that, good servicable weapons of better quality than anywhere else in the world for the price. The "Best" quality in a London gun came mainly from the final finishing which added a little to reliability and "feel" but most to beauty / elegance and pride of ownership.

Your gun was a nominal 10 bore but actually measured 11 bore. Lovely damascus barrels bearing the crown over V London View Mark (1637-1954) for preliminary inspection, the crown over bar over GP Provisional Proof Mark (1813-date) to reveal faults before any expensive work was done on the barrels, and the crown over GP London Definitive Proof Mark (1637 to date), all these adding up to Black Powder Proof. The barrel flats have two of these original marks as expected.

The action flats have the expected View mark, and they have the H Walker patent mark for his barrel bolting and safety for drop-down actions patent No 455 of 12 February 1872 (Use No. 1098 ).

Of equal importance to the marks are the ones that don't appear e.g. no NOT FOR BALL or CHOKE mark (so see what patterns it throws with various cartridges). The first of these was introduced in 1875, so this and the patent date mean the gun was made definitely not before Feb 72, or after 1875.

It must have been made a couple of years after 1872, say 1874 to early 1875, and we favour the latter because even if the gun was made by a large trade maker, the 1098 use number is quite a large number. You will have noted that neither we nor anyone else really know when the Paris shop closed, we only think it was shortly after 1872.

The gun was re-proved after 2005, we can't read the crossed swords date code and confess to not having the key to these recent codes! The two crowns over SUP are for the Superior Proof Mark for 1200 Bars, 10x76 is 10 bore 76mm chambers; 19.4 is the barrel diameter and crown over BNP is the Birmingham Nitro Proof Mark. Crown over R is the re-proof mark - why it is deemed necessary we don't know!

We think you can take it that the serial number is 19286 and that the engraver was an old man with poor eyesight and and a bad memory. Unlike the other gun we mentioned, we don't think this gun is made up of muddled parts!
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Re: lc smith keith 11/05/25 04:54 PM
The L.C. Smith guns used a rotary bolt which engages the barrel rib extension. As the camming surface of the rotary bolt and bolting surface of the rib extension wear, the top lever spring gradually moves the lever to the left.

Various methods are used to fix this situation. The worn out rotary bolt can be replaced using good spare parts. The bolting surface in the rib extension can be built up with TIG or laser welding, and remachined to replace the worn metal. Sometimes, crude repairs are made by peening the rib extension, but this method is temporary at best. This is something to look for when buying an L.C. Smith.

https://www.lcsmith.org/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=43784&module_id=248706

https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=397167&page=all
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DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Jump to new posts
Re: Delay in gun exports from UK keith 11/05/25 04:42 PM
Originally Posted by Jimmy W
Originally Posted by ksauers1
If the democrats knew their shutdown was preventing people from from receiving purchased guns they’d never open the government back up
What was the record before- for the government being shut down for the most days? 35 days. Who was in office when that record was set before? Donald Trump, of course. What a coincidence. He has a habit of being in an office when Americans die. Not surprising.

DimmyW has brain damage, which prevents him from understanding that there have been 14 votes to reopen the government, and his Anti-Gun Democrats have voted against it every time. All Republicans are voting in favor of keeping the Government open by supporting the same clean CR that has been supported by Democrats several times in the past.

It appears that the Democrat shutdown is solely responsible for longer ATF processing wait times, which understandably has Argo44 in a tizzy.

Personally, I hope the shutdown goes on for at least 60 days, so Trump will then have the right to terminate roughly 700,000 mostly useless Federal employees. It's a shame that Federal employees who do not work during shutdowns get back-pay when it is all over. At best, they should have to apply for State Unemployment Benefits, and lose a Waiting Week, just like those in the private sector.

DimmyW also doesn't comprehend that the drug smugglers killed by Trump's orders are NOT American citizens. They are members of violent drug cartels, and are involved in bringing in the drugs that killed over 400,000 Americans during the Biden Administration. Biden and Democrats did nothing to stop it. In fact, they opened the borders and made it worse. Poor ignorant DimmyW is worried about the "Rights" of violent drug cartel smugglers, but doesn't care a bit about over 100,000 of his fellow CITIZENS being killed by drug overdoses every year. Talk about screwed-up priorities!

DimmyW's brain damage also seems to be preventing him from remembering that it was the Anti-gun Democrat Barack Hussein Obama who ordered drone strikes on several actual American citizens, and killed them without due process.

https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5571&context=flr

This post has nothing to do with politics, and is informational and intended merely to help the mentally handicapped DimmyW come to grips with reality.
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Re: Report from the North Country Lloyd3 11/05/25 04:15 PM
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Headed into these mountains next week, it will all be ok shortly...
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Re: George Gibbs Farquharson DSchrank 11/05/25 02:40 AM
Great rifle!!!
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Re: How to do a transfer on gun without serial number? DSchrank 11/05/25 02:38 AM
Forgot to add: OldMaineWoodsman is correct in how they are entered into an FFL bound book and a 4473. NSN, No Serial Number, or None.
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Re: Merkel Combination Gun with Ejectors ohiochuck 11/05/25 12:55 AM
Merkel 302 E two-barrel set -16b. X 16b. & 16b. X 9.3X72R made in 1933.
Beautiful wood and engraving = hunting scenes and oak leaves I do not know how to post pictures here.
I found it in 2019 and it replaced my Merkel 210 as my deer rifle since Ohio does not allow bottleneck cartridges for deer.
I sent it to JJ Perodeau Gunmaker to craft claw rings and sight in the Schmidt & Bender 1.5X6. scope.

Merkel sent me the build card for this pre-war combination set. They still had the records!
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Re: Help identifying Spanish SXS Drew Hause 11/04/25 07:05 PM
Or an odd way of expressing the barrel weight at the time of proof
1.41050 Kg = 3.1096#
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Re: Ithaca SKB 200E .......... BrentD, Prof 11/04/25 04:10 PM
Originally Posted by Jimmy W
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by Jimmy W
Well, I went to look at the gun today- ready to buy it. When I first saw it, I thought something looked odd- the gold medallion was down awfully close to the end of the butt stock. Someone had cut the stock down to 11 inches. About 12 1/2 inches with a 1/4 inch spacer and a dried out 1 inch white line pad. So much for that. Gorgeous gun, too.

I would have asked what the LOP is before driving anywhere to look at it as a potential purchase, whether 100 miles or across the hamlet. Just common sense to ask if the barrels or the wood has been cut.
I had to go right past his house to go to Home Depot to get some light fixtures. So, I would have wanted to see the gun anyway. Not a big deal for me. I'm always driving around looking for guns. But after I saw it, I thought I would hold off on it. He probably won't sell it for a while- if I decide I still want it. Plus I have a feeling he might lower the price and I know one guy at the club with a kid who shoots who might want it. But he's out of town right now. Maybe I could put another pad on it and sell it. I'll just have to decide. A lot of options. But, right now I have two guns to get leather pads on, and I just got done doing a Silver Pigeon ll, so I'll hold off on it for now. Thanks gentlemen for all your help.

I bought a model 100 for my wife and immediately cut the stock and added a pad. That was that gun's most important purpose, and it worked very well for that. But as soon as I got it, I also put a search on ebay for a replacement stock. In short order, I found a c n c unfinished carved stock that fit it perfectly with only a few minutes of adjusting the inletting. I added a pad to that, and now I have stocks that fit both me and her.
I don't think I paid more than seventy five dollars for that butt stock.
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Re: where to find correct hardware for leather cases Daryl Hallquist 11/04/25 01:22 PM
These folks did a great job for me. They shipped seamlessly from Australia. Their website is down for maintenance at the moment.
https://customguncasesandaccessories.com/password
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