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#624861 01/11/2023 6:58 PM
by AGS
AGS
The LB&S ads on Gunbroker include a listing for a Charles Daly Diamond Grade.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/963215066

This is one of only two or three reserve auctions I can remember from them.

I found it interesting for a couple of reasons. I don't particularly recognize the damascus pattern, but am not an expert on them. It actually looks similar to the few inhouse Parker made Laminated barrels (I have one of them).
The second thing is that you can just see part of the Linder stamp on the barrels. Other than the serial numbers, there seem to be no significant markings on the gun. Their writup indicates that Lefever at the time was their US contractor, and they thought the gun likely was built in Germany but finished by Lefever.
Could this be the case? I had never in my limited experience heard of this connection. I will have to say that even before I read it, I immediately thought of high grade Lefever engraving when I saw the bottom metal. The upper engraving looks normal but the bottom has a combination of birds, animals and dogs that looks very much like theirs or a high grade Ithaca.

Any comments on this? The pictures in the listing are awful, but the link to the high rez photos are revealing.
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#624872 Jan 11th a 08:00 PM
by canvasback
canvasback
Originally Posted by J.B.Patton
I know that George Lindner sourced actions and barrels were imported into the US and finished/labeled by several gunmakers ( Schaefer & Goelcher for example).
I know of Daly branded Lindner guns that used Lefever patent actions ( sidecocker), but I am not aware of any Lindner or Daly guns “ finished” by Lefever.
I cannot recall reading about Daly ever using Lefever Arms as a subcontractor for any of their import lines.
I would be interested to know how L,S&B came to their conclusions- and why they felt inclined to include that bit of “reference” in the historical trace.
Best Regards,
JBP

Because when you are trying to sell something to the American collector, "Prussian Daly" is good, "Prussian Lindner Daly" is better and "Prussian Lindner Daly with a whiff of Uncle Dan" is best of all.
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#624869 Jan 11th a 07:48 PM
by canvasback
canvasback
This looks like a pretty typical pre 1892 Lindner made Diamond grade. The 35xx serial number points to a late first series serial number so production would be sometime in the last few years before 1892. Engraving style looks standard.....I was just looking at a similarly dated Diamond grade last month.

The guy writing the blurb doesn't know what he's talking about. The lack of proofs are because Prussia didn't have a proof house or require proof marks prior to 1892. And Daly didn't introduce a Regent Diamond model until nearly 20 years after this gun was produced.
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