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http://www.naturabuy.fr/IDEAL-PERFECTION-TYPE-ANGLAIS-item-3619970.html

This model of Ideal, built to appeal to the British, is a very rare item. Wingshooter and I have only ever seen 3 come up for sale. The other two have been up in the 20,000 Euro asking range so this gun is listed at quite a discount. Any Ideal fans feel like taking a good look and picking it apart?

BTW, Last question in the question and answer section is a reasonably polite request for the seller to post a photo of the flats and proofs. Seller basically tells the person asking for the pic to quit wasting his time and F*** Off. It's quite stunning and is one more thing that gives rise to our suspicions.

Ed, go somewhere else and be an idiot. Quit trolling my thread.

Tom, that is quite a story and I await your further description upon receipt of the gun. Most interesting. My "collecting" such as it is, has kind of been dominated by Lindners for the last 5 years or so but all I have to do in pick up my Ideal 12 ga to remember why I became so enthralled with them. The sudden passing of Mike (Wingshooter) didn't help as he and I were joined at the hip on the subject of Ideals. Never did find the right 16 gauge before the EU closed the French loophole I was using to bring over guns from from France for a 20 euro fee and postage, which typically was about $60. Some members here benefited as I resold the 5 or so Ideal 16s I brought over, down into the US for my costs. Mostly very nice examples, just not what I was after.

Salut,
Très beau modèle.

Celui-ci de 1887/1888 avec sa belle crosse arabe s'est vendu 3000 euros.

https://www.gazette-drouot.com/lots/24933334-valise-en-chene-montee-a-la---


Un 356 de 1951

https://drouot.com/fr/l/24995741-fusil-ideal-356-modele-tir-aux

Here you go:

Director's punch.

After scrupulously checking this weapon, the director of the Manu will have this punch affixed to it.

On the other hand, I only see the last 2 photos.


Fab,

Une question particulière pour fab500, il semble que je me souvienne de lui (?) Déclarant que certains des canons commercialisés étaient couverts par des "numéros de série spéciaux". les canons et les plats d'action sont marqués "2437", avec les 2 légèrement frappés aux deux endroits. pourrait-il s'agir d'une marque de numérotation spéciale ?

Meilleures salutations,

Tom


Best,
Ted

I see the first two photos and the other links won't work for me at all when I copy and paste into a new window.

My 7RE-C has the director stamp and PERFECTION stamped on it just like that one.

Salut Tom,
Désolé, mais je ne sais pas à quoi correspondent ces numéros qu'on retrouve sur ces armes.
Il est possible que ce soient des numéros de fabrique pour éviter de mélanger les pièces ?
Je vous mets la photo de la sûreté de gâchettes. Votre arme en est équipée.

Hi Tom,

Sorry, but I don't know what these numbers found on these weapons correspond to.

Is it possible that these are factory numbers to avoid mixing parts?

I'll give you the photo of the safety of triggers. Your weapon is equipped with it.

Translation of Fab’s message.

Best,
Ted