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I agree, Bill. I am sick and tired of all the whining and hand wringing about how heavy Model 21s are! They are generally the same crowd that whines about short barreled guns being whippie. Todays hunters/shooters are so spoiled and finicky!

Thanks, Don. And LastDollar, my old 6 1/4 pound 28" 20 gauge Model 21 was just as it came from the factory, not built or modified by anyone since its original manufacture. It now lives a few miles up the road. I will buy it back some day.

Not sure I understand this question ... sure don't understand the sarcasm in it.

Most 21s are substantial guns. My 16 ga. is 6-3/4 lbs., maybe 2 oz. lighter than it came from the factory with BTFE. This weight perfectly fits the Brit's rule of 96 for the 1-1/8 oz. loads I mostly use for wild pheasants. It's also quite tolerable with the 1-1/4 oz. pigeon load equivalents I sometimes use in the left barrel in late season. And I can carry it easily all day.

I can shoot light game loads for doves or at targets without punishing recoil.

Should I be wishing for a lighter gun? Don't think I want one of them toothpicks. Courses for horses as they say.

Boy, you 21 guys are thin skinned! The way I read it, ya all were saying the guns were too heavy, and comments were made about having them "built" lighter. A 16 @ 6 3/4 lbs sounds about right.......

Yup, we're thin skinned and paying a darn fortune for every extra 21 we put in the back of the truck. I've been needing a 21 since 1955 when I got my first yellow cover catalog from the Rockville, Maryland Western Auto store. I was probably a bit younger than ten years old. I managed the first pair ten years later when I was 19 years old and bought my last one last month. I haven't won a lot of money with them compared to other guns, but I'm not dead yet. They are among the best guns made for reliable performance.

Hell yes we're thin skinned. Our gun of choice is about the only one that I can think of that routinely attack at every turn! Usually by those who don't know what the hell they are talking about.
I don't see any of our "lowly" clan attacking the guns of choice of the "elites" of the hunting/shooting clan!

I'm not wild about 21's (though I'd be glad to own one if a rich 38 year old widow offered me one) but even so I really can't take any more whining about gun weight. I hate to use resort to using 'real man' in sentence, but a real man doesn't get his knickers in a twist over 14 ounces of steel and wood one way or the other.

I also suspect a lot of weight whiners are also recoil whiners.

weight not here or there, they are just not graceful to the eye. With all that feathercrotch wood and gold the gun still just does not look right to me.

21's and NID's um um um, a NID did somehow slip into the collection somehow tho...

I'll take any and all you can give me. Thank you. The gaudier the better. More for me. Less for you.

I agree Tim. I think they are well built but they're a good example of what happens to a product when it filters through the corporate world.