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Dig:

Looks nice, but the guts of the gun is Caesar Guerini. No matter how much you dress it up, you can not go from a $5000 gun to $20,000 but changing the skirt!

John Boyd

A Greener FH16 was 16 guineas, an FH50 was 50 guineas. Internals are the same - the difference?

The amount of finishing, quality of wood, the care put into the final article. they all started off as the same barreled actions.

Take alook at a Webley screw grip model from the 1930s. all stared ife as the same barrelled action. The price then and now depends on what was done with it.


Case in point - Webley & Rogers actioned Army & Navy sidelock ejector sold last year for £400. Thomas Bland built on exactly the same action from the same source but with much higher degree of finish - £12,000.

What is a Browning B25? Whay are the various models all so far apart in cost?

The point is that all sorts of things are built on acommon platform - the end result can be very different.

The new Evans is not for me and not for you but it does fill a niche.

BTW, the current Guerini model in better grade than the Maxum is almost $10,000.

Dig,
Thank you for the insight, I certainly do not wish to be branded as someone who scoffs at the expense of endeavour.But I do feel that in this instance it is very overpriced for what it actually is.
Rizzini have done a similar thing for Paul Roberts for considerably less money.Also for less than £10,000 you could purchase a pair of EELL's, in 20 bore you would be hard pushed to better that pair.

Although not personally in the market for such a gun, I congratulate the move of W.Evans.
The internals may be the same of other Guerinis, but at least they are using a well tested and reliable source. I would rather have that, than a master piece full of problems.
Sharing some (major) parts is what we all have in cars, computers, home appliances etc ... Why not in guns ?
In no particular order, brand, image, service, warranty and value is what drive us in choosing one over the other, and it's up to the gun makers that we perceive these semi-outsourced guns as good value. Not a small task.

HM

Very few cars,computers and home appliances are passed on for generations.If Evans is getting the gun in the white engraved and stock checkered the fifthteen grand is alot for special blueing and worthog stock finish.Lifetime warrenty mean little to me now days as its ussaly means just while a group owns the name. There are thousands of lifetime warrenty Daly's out there with no one to do the warrenty work

If W. Evans announces now that is doing this with Guerini, what held them from doing more or less the same before with Spanish guns in-the-white?

If you see a niche and a demand, then fill it.

If the gun lives up to the standards that William Evans holds and if they are open about what they are doing, then I wish them all the best and hope they are successful.

It's about staying in business. It's 2008, not 1908. Doing the same thing over and over again in a constantly changing economy is insanity and economic suicide.

JM well said.
I wish Wm. Evans every success with their venture.

It is a changeing world,few will ever again wear American made Blue Jeans.

Comparably speaking, what's wrong with Italian guts sold by an English firm??? A lot of people throughout the world feel and very strongly that the Italian guns are the finest in the world.
Pretty hard to argue with them when it seems that every competitive trap shooter uses a Perazzi!