I Have 2, 0ne in 20 ga. and the other in 28 ga. I've had them for at least 4 years, bought the 28 when it first came out and the 20 a month or so after that. Both have had over 4 flas through them, mostly at pasture clays. The 20 is used mostly for ducks over decoys using bismuth no. 5s or Kent Matrix no. 5s and 3s. Have killed a big Canada at 30 yds. with no. 3 Kent Matrix. Neither of these shot guns have given a problem. The 28 is my early season grouse and woodcock shotgun. Have better makes os shotguns but these Turkish shotguns have worked wellfor me.