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I don't eat em, I don't kill em, I don't judge those that do.
But I do have a tendency to love my double barrel sssshotgggguns:)
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The thing that's troubling to me and I guess others here is the perception we give to the non-hunting public when something like this is posted. I agree the coyote population has to be kept in check but is this the way we want to show the general public how it's done? Jim
The 2nd Amendment IS an unalienable right.
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Got enough coyotes in my neck of Illinois (N/E Lake county) so that I hear them yapping it up right here in Hawthorn Woods, a community of 4,000 folks mostly on one acre lots. My neighbor found the head and spinal column of a small dog in his yard a few weeks ago and owned it to the coyotes. This man is a seasoned hunter and knows what he is talking about. Any folks dumb enough to let a small dog loose in this area kinda deserves what he gets. We have waaaay too many geese here and we had a doe birth her fawn in my backyard. Wonder if the little one wound up the same as that pooch. Just my 2C worth. Chops
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You really can't blame the coyotes. They, like us, need to eat. So they will and it may be your puppy or a fawn, same as us, if we need to eat. So the best way to keep a coyote from destroying things we like is to elliminate the coyotes as best and as often as you can.
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I am constantly amazed at the tenor of some of the judgemental and "holier-than-thou posts made by some to this site. Why, according to these comments, readers can only surmise one impression; that some among us "walk on water", and are so perfect they've NEVER EVER wounded an animal/bird of any kind and left it to suffer unrecovered in the bush! What absolute poppy-cock BS! Would you guys take the same pious attitude toward ole Wiley Coyote had you clipped it with your car/truck tire on a cold rainy night and had it drag itself off in the brush by the side of some road to suffer? Are you so pious that you would stop and follow up that suffering coyote for a finishing-off smack over the head? Hardly! In my worthless opinion, subject coyote didn't go far, or suffer long with that load of #5's up his butt. Furthermore, the shooter did the local turkey, and other small game population a huge favor (and maybe some fortunate farmer, as the 'yotes around here also have a taste for very young calves). I personally don't turkey hunt; but my brother-in-law does; and based on his first hand experience, #5 and #6 shot will take coyotes all day long at turkey ranges from his 10-bore ('yotes regularly investigate his calls). And although I can't speak for all states, GA does not protect coyotes; so my vote is to get off this guy's back, give him two more shells, and tell him to go get another one! And furthermore, I am sick to my stomach with all this PC BS. Why do we automatically believe we have to worry what some anti-gun/anti-hunting idiot who will never have a clue as to our motivation for either hobby might think if he sees these pix? Do you really think such a person is ever going to be the least bid sympathic towards/cast a vote in favor of our privilege/right to hunt or own guns? Absolutely not! And that in spite of the fact that we have, for decades, done all within our power to preserve lands and habitat in our efforts to convince the general public that we are good people and are a primary reason wild animal populations still exist within the US. But the truth is that such people will continue to seek every opportunity to cast us in the worst light possible, regardless of the circumstances. So let's quit "eating our own" and leave this guy alone; for unless coyote shooting is illegal in his state of residence, he did absolutely nothing wrong or unethical (unless of course, his state of residence has a coyote specific law requiring 'oytes be shot in the head, and not the ass end).
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Who is "entitled" to primacy over the earth? Man or beast? I love nature and all of the Lord's creations, more than most people, I expect. However, protecting and re-establishing the gators, the wolves, bears and the allowing the self re-introduction/invasion of the coyote among us, where we live, does not seem sane to me.
Our fore-fathers did away with the large predators for a good reason; they kept eating the children and the livestock. When I was a child in the South, big gators were not common, and those that existed were afraid of people. Now, they're all over and after 40 years of protection, they have little natural fear of humans. The news has been full of gator attacks on humans the last few years. We have plenty of three legged dogs around because of the gators as well as plenty of dogs that just never did show back up. They (the gators) need to be thinned back a bit IMHO. I expect the cattlemen of the Rocky Mountain States feel the same way about Griz and wolves.
My point, such as it is, is just that there is a place for "them" and a place for us. Their place isn't in our back yards though. I said I don't shoot coyotes, they look too much like dogs to me. But I don't object to those who choose to shoot them because they should not be in our back yards or in our turkey set-ups...Geo
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I shot them in my yard because they were stalking my Cat and my .22 Hornet created some natural evolution for a Couple of the Wily Creatures.Great Coyote gun!
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I live in a major urban area where there are LOTS of coyotes and it is simply illegal to kill them except if they are in your house or dragging off one of the neighborhood kiddies. That frustrates me, since, while I very much like having coyotes (and for that matter, rattlers) around, I do reserve the right to defend myself from the wildlife (of all species).
I think the turkey hunter should have simply killed the 'yote. I've killed plenty of them with a 10 at calling range (didn't use a turkey call, tho). Coming that close deserved killin'. Blame Darwin; blame global warming, or Original Sin; wild animals need to be kept wild. Shooting the boldest and/or the dumbest seems to ensure that.
BTW, that 10-bore Lefever is the most elegant "varmint rifle" I've seen in many a day, although these days I usually use a Ruger #1 in .22 Hornet myself.
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It is SIMPLE, if they are a PROBLEM go grab your favorite iron and pull the trigger. But, if they are not a problem don't. Arn't we making this into a great big ordeal??
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