Originally Posted By: cherry bomb
Not trying to denigrate anything

"do NID's suck or what?" Please explain the apparent difference in these two.

The gun doesn't appear to have had any repairs. It does have detectable wear and may get a trip for tightening some day on my shift - or maybe not. The gun was in the hands of a trap pro for many years. 4000 rounds of trap is not a lot for volume shooters. I don't currently shoot ATA, so I'm not in a class.