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Depends on what part of the country you are in KY Jon. I just read this week that the farmers are the ones making a killing selling their corn for ethanol. John Deere can't make enough combines to keep up with the demand and now they are on back order. And right here in this county the farmers made a killing selling off their farms to developers for all their new subdivisions that are going up. Looks odd seeing a new subdivision with an old farmhouse sitting on the edge of it. But you guys are right- this country is in trouble. To many flat screen TVs, credit card and cell phone bills that people can't afford to pay. I remember when I got a loan back in the 70s for a home, the bank almost wouldn't give you a loan if your monthly house payment was going to exceed the households income in one week. That means your house payment should not be larger than what every working person brings home in one week. I told that to a realtor resently and she thought that was absurd. But that is why so many people are in trouble- living way over their means and trying to stay ahead of the Jones.

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Jimmy W - you have that right.


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Not sure, but last week I could have bought one with much of CC remaining, solid wood stock, nice barrel blue for about $700. The name on lock plate was L.C.Smith. I thought they went for about $1200 in that condition. I didn't buy it because I have no use for another shotgun.

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I dint see any subdivisions anywhere on the trip I described...just empty fields and empty farms. Farmers are making some money, about time...But, the cost of production keeps going up. 300,000 for a combine, diesel doubled, 1800-2000 a month electrric bill to run a pivot.........As to back ordered combines and tractors, theres a bunch on lots around here and busted farm sales every week...As to leaving this country? No way, who said anything about that?

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Must be in the middle of nowhere then?
The farmers around here have turned into real estate magnates.
All these country properties use to be corn and bean fields.
My land was bought from such a farmer - Mr. Greenjeans with a briefcase.

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When I was in Kansas hunting a few weeks back I remarked to an old farmer/cattleman that the price of diesel must be killing him....his reply was "you got to have something to sell to pay for it".

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Welcome to the dog eat dog world - we all must have something to sell to pay for anything we want - be it time in the work-a-day world, or that ol'gun behind the kitchen door.
The beanfields of the past, have patios now!

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Originally Posted By: KY Jon
Yes, I agree that things do not look that bright for many, in this country. But before you give up all hope and move to a third world country, that has a "booming economy" and a life expectancy of 50-60 consider this one fact. Poor people in this country are fat, in the rest of the world they are skinny. I been there and seen it with my own eyes. Our worse is still better than most nations best.


Well John, I am not sure I agree with this analysis of our success. No doubt about it, you can get good tasting calories easier in the US of A than about anywhere in the world. Fast food (MdDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Pizza Hut, et. al.) have made this country fat. But better? Jake


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I would imagine the price of gas will stabilize around $5.50-$6. Lets face it even if it reached prices seen in some Euro counties most of the folks on this BBS would still be able to afford expensive guns. Come on, give me a break and quit bitching.

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I got out of the SUV market before the big increase in fuel prices. About a year and a half ago, I saw $3.00 gas coming at me and sold a good 2500 series, late model 4 wheel drive, 454 cubic inch Suburban for $1000. It took me awhile, but I got my $1000 and invested it in Parkers. If I had not had such good timing, I never would have gotten anywhere near $1000 for that $15,000 truck and wouldn't have that collection of Parkers. I only have one over 400 cubic inch vehicle to sell now. I may use it for a planter.

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