Jim, is right.IMHO That is why I choose the 1100 for my daughter. Another friend of mine thought he would start his young brother in-law,out with an H&R single shot in 20ga. It was cheap in price and plain to see if the action was open. The kid would complain about recoil and we all thought he was a wimp. Then we all took turns shooting it. That light gun would give you a real bruising, kick the snot out of you. It was not user friendly, even though the loads were light loads. The gun was too light in weight. JMHO