I agree with the 1100 in 20ga. but that said most here probably started with a .410 and it appears we hung with it as far as shotguns go.Make enough gun shows and you with find a 311 or Savage Fox for about the same money as the Stoger and get a better gun to my thinking.Before you cut the stock drill two holes and save the piece cut off. When ready to go longer just dowell the holes and its done.