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Grafs and sons has 24 gauge reloading components. If you load nitro I don't know how you would get your loads pressure tested and I don't know what pressure the gun was "designed" to shoot. These are the plastic Cheddite: http://www.grafs.com/product/185062These are brass: http://www.grafs.com/product/193264There are other companies that sell Magtech Brass hulls besides Graf's. I just loaded some Magtech brass 16 gauge with black powder and it was a breeze. I got the wads appropriate for black powder and Magtech brass from "Track of the Wolf": http://www.trackofthewolf.com/(S(5n55up4...amp;styleID=123Best, Mike
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Larry,
If you pop on over to Geoffroy's website, you will see he has photos of a 24 gauge R10 Darne that was produced with 70mm chambers.
I've seen 70mm marked 24 gauge ammunintion in Europe-all I can tell you, is it wasn't Winchester or Remington. I also have some Spanish ammunition that is marked 70mm, but measures 67mm after being fired, and more like 65mm as loaded.
I have found 20 gauge to be the hardest to get really good patterns out of, and can't imagine 24 gauge is much of an improvement.
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I think the 24 gauge that ellenbr is thinking of is an H&R. I saw one years ago, but it wasn't a true shotgun. It was some kind of an animal dart gun if memory serves. They had one at an auction I went to, it was a smoothbore but had sights on it.
I have an American made 24 gauge shell in my collection, it's a Winchester if memory serves. I believe it's the only one I ever had a chance to buy.
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...I don't know what pressure the gun was "designed" to shoot... If the gun is Belgian; Law of 1893 - Obligatory Proof of joined barrels of multi-barreled Breech loaders and Muzzle loaders 24 gauge 14.6mm Bore Diameter 7 grams Powder Charge 16 grams Shot Charge Law of 1924 - Definitive Black Powder Proof of Breech loading Shotguns 24 gauge 70mm Maximum Chamber Length 6.8 grams Powder Charge 30.7 grams Shot Charge The Belgian Proof house dramatically increased the pressures by 1924. They were at least 80% over the service load. Pete
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I hunt woodcock, early grouse and rabbits with a 24 ga. Belgian Guild SxS, and love it. I use Fiochi shells which are loaded with 11/12s of an oz. of shot. I have 5s, 6s, and 8s. I have gotten shells from Graf and Ballistic Products, will get some brass cases and start loading them.
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Frank, took a look in the catalog and also saw prices realized. Way more than I think its worth. Thanks anyways. Appreciate it!
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Well, they did offer to take it back for a full refund or give me a $250. discount. I took the discount because the gun is just too pretty. And it fits me. I think I am going to have fun shooting it. Thanks for all your help. That is why I come here. Frank
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Rocky Mountain Cartridge http://www.rockymountaincartridge.com/page7.html lists brass hulls in 24 gauge. I do not see what type of primer they use. Contact info is on http://www.rockymountaincartridge.com/ . Chamber inserts like Gauge Mate to let 28 gauge or .410 be fired could be made, if the chamber length is not a problem, or if 2.5" shells are available in those gauges. 24 and 28 gauge differ by about 0.030". If the chambers differ by about the same, that would make for a thin insert. A .410/24 insert would be thick enough to allow it to be made to extend into the 24 gauge bore. Then longer shells could be used w/o sticking in the insert.
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