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Where o where have I seen pictures of a butt stock that has been seriously hollowed out for weight reduction. If memory serves the side walls were about 1/4 thick but the integrity of the stock remained. The butt may have been plugged?

Maybe it was here or perhaps in an article by SDH or DT?

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I THINK it was an article by David Trevallion in the DGJ if memory serves.

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There are photos in my first book (Fine Gunmaking) of a large cavity, before and after plugging, in the butt of my Fox and a couple of shots of bored holes in a story about balancing in Double Guns and Custom Gunsmithing none of which are readily available for internet posting.
Both were in Shooting Sportsman columns sometime back.
I'd recommend reading the stories before hollowing the stock, I'd be happy to provide the books.
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Steve, do you remember which issue of SS. I would like to re-read.

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It was Purdey No 10615,# 2 of a Pair Built 1878-79. Delivered by James Purdey"The Younger" Jan 1st 1880 as a pair of Pigeon Guns with the New' Whitworth Steel Tubes'...(Sorry Gunmaker Speak")..".Barrels." Don Dallas and "Self" did extensive research through Purdey's Records(With untiring Effort from Peter Blaine) for the "True Gen" on Purdey and the Whitworth Story. McIntosh wrote a good artical on my Gun in Shooting Sportsman Mag.The stock, "Off the Gun", with Gold oval after I did what we used to call( At Purdeys) A Maximum Bore" weighed 11oz. I had taken 7 1/2 oz out. I "Bagged the French Walnut that I had removed and kept it with the Original Stock. I Restocked the gun for the next owner. That was the most I have ever removed from a Straight English Hand Stock that had a 14 1/4" Length.The Stock-Walls averaged 1/8th or less, but after I 'Full Butt-Plugged" the Butt-End,Aprox. 1/8th thick....We put the Stock to the "Ultimate Workshop Test"...a Large member of the"Grand Order of'B.A.G.s (Aprox 250lbs.) stood on the side of the stock when I put it on the Shop floor....I think it was Winston S. Churchill who when in the Sudan around 1896 ,said 'Theres nothing so Exhilarating in Life, as being shot at, with no Result...I felt a little like that as the French Walnut Stock flexed a bit' But No Cracking Sounds!!! There was a small Wager before the"B.A.G." did his Balancing Act!!!!"They dont Grow Walnut Like That 'NO.MO"......cc/dt

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DT, I read about the "Standing on the hollowed stock" story but could not remember
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Most Browning Supers have wood removed, just had to fill a 686 to make a butt plate work.
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I have a Flues Ithaca with a hollowed out stock i asked about on here before & it seems it came from the factory that way.


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Most Charlins, and Darnes, as well, feature a cavity under the buttplate. An Ideal usually has a sling rolled up where the wood used to be.
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Scroll down to the Turner on John Foster's site.

http://johnfostergunmaker.co.uk/guns.htm


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