Gil Ash did it for me and he was the best gun money I ever spent.With his instruction I was able to go from OK with my cylinder SxS to bringing home some B class top brass for fairly large shoots in Houston. Gil proved that any bird can be hit by swinging from any dirrection. He would use your gun for impossibile shots and then say your gun can do it now lets get you up to it.Oh ya Gil wife was one heck of a shot also and could match him one for one.