Well after I went to bed you all posted much better post. A few of you ever realize what the question was about. Thanks for the input for sure. I like a 16ga. I am big and strong now, that could change.....LOL So carring a heavy gun isn't that big a deal to me. I actually shoot heavier guns better anyways. I am also glad to see a few of you are concerned with my finacal future. I am pretty well invested. I am also in the process of buying a house for my mom. After all she was a single mom raising two kids and put a safe roof over our heads and filled our bellies. I think I owe it to her to take care of her now. So hopefully within the next few weeks we'll find a house for her she likes and I will close on it. As for property I have some in AK, and am looking to buy some between Bosemen MT and Sun Valley ID. So for another tour, when I do leave here hopefully it will be forever. I will never say never but hope to never need to come back here to make money. So I maybe able to afford both but I can only justify buying one. Its a tough choice but I am leaning very heavy on the Fox. Then find a model 21 to use for my sxs sporting clays gun. I enjoy reading all your post even if they don't stick to the rules I tried to put in place.