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Hello Glen,
Your correct, many of the larger 'London Gun Houses' did have their single shot rifle actions made abroad, especially in Belgium. But Britain wasn't alone in doing so. Some US 'Big Name' manufacturers did the same. E.G. The Sharps Rifle Co. advertised both 10 and 12 Bore Shotguns, all marked up with the Sharps address and the 'Old Reliable' logo. Some 230 of these shotguns were sold, yet not one saw the Sharps factory, (unless in transit elsewhere). They were all made (and engraved)in England by Philip Webley & Co. Those few who are lucky enough to own a 'Sharps' shotgun, I'm sorry to pour water on your dream of owning an 'American Shotgun' made by a very famous American gun manufacturer. Sharps never made one of them.
Harry
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Joe,
From 1880 on the English trade was going through contraction. Williams in his "The Birmingham Gun Trade" talks about that. A good example is the declining about of trade produced for the American market. In 1882 $1,169,000 by 1905 it was less than $20,000. By 1903 damascus tubes were no longer produced in England according to Greener. Belgium at the same time reached it's zenith of exporting during this period. Dunham states in 1955 that there was only 1 source of British produced shotgun tubes. Williams to points to the tariffs as cause. Certainly they played a factor, perhaps not the only factor.
Certainly such a list as you propose would be interesting and informative. I would add Rodda and Clabrough to your list.
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Add to the London genuine gunmaker list: Cogswell & Harrison
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Did William Evans actually build complete guns? I have heard that Scott built most of them. No. Most of Evans' output was built complete for them by others. Most came from Webley & Scott, and were mostly models from Webley's line, not Scott's.
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Remove Rodda and Evans. Add H&H, Wilks, and Churchill. Add Bonehill, Midland, BSA, and Bentley and Playfair.
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You may add Horsley of York to your provintial list.  PS. One way to sort this out is to look at patents issued or some weirdo guns. Examples are Lang's Patent 'Lever Cocker' and Lincoln Jeffries 'lightweight pigeon gun' . Now that has to be "home made" baby! 
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Edwin Anson (eldest son of great Anson of Anson & Deeley fame). Not sure under what column to put down this laddie. Any ideas?  Pics of his unique SL1/2E (split extractor mechanism) gun can be seen on pgs 42,43 of Feb 2004 issue of Sporting Gun mag. 
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Add to the London genuine gunmaker list: Cogswell & Harrison I thought W&C Scott made their guns ?
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