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So, is a Corvette Z06, a Corvette? GM and many purchasers sure think so.
Frankly, this negative disposition against modern manufacture of previously manufactured guns is starting to wear thin. I have no problem with Model 21's, Fox's and the Parker's currently being manufactured. What I do have a problem with is just taking the name ala LC Smith and putting it on a product that does not remotely resemble the original design specifications.-Dick

Dick_dup1,

I have no intrest or knowledge in cars. I am a pick-up truck guy. But maybe forced to driving a car when I return at the current rate of gas. I do however understand your point. I agree with you on the LC Smith and the Parker Bros Makers over and under. I would not buy one and would not support them.

I'm pretty sure I'll never buy either a new "LC Smith" made in wheretheheckistan or the new "Parker Bros" o/u. But, I do support the making of the PB o/u since it's a U.S. maker. Whatever name he uses, if it was legally acquired, I'm supportive. There are many examples of name usage in the gun world and other products. Winchester/Olin/whoever has it now, S&W/foreign investors, Colt/foriegn investors. It's a fact. I don't take any particular note of it, let alone any offense. The Douglas Aircraft company had it's identity diluted in the sixties and then lost it altogether in the ninties. Even though I worked for the company before it's last change, I don't have any sadness or anomosity. When the El Camino was discontinued, even though I'd had one for yrs, I didn't tear up. When the Camaro was discontinued, I didn't blink. It's business. Growth, reduction, acquisitions, etc. 'guess I'm not all that emotional about such stuff. Heck a perfume company was making H&H guns for a while.

I have no problem with a newly built Parker (though I question it being built by CSMC rather than Remington)- I just have a problem with people who want to call it an original Parker. It's not.

The Corvette analogy is foolish. They never stopped making Corvettes. They are still made by the same people who made them in 1953. If they were still making Parkers Bros guns in Meriden in a Parker factory and had never stopped I'd call it an original Parker. See how it works?

GregSY,

So a company isn't allowed to move? I am not trying to be funny. So if the founder dies then so does the company? If I open shop then close shop. Then move to another shop I am not the same company? Even if I am making the same product? Or what if I start a shop then close it then reopen. Only to turn around and sell it. But everything is the same? Just a thought, not trying to stir the pot. I agree with most all of your post.

Chevrolet ceased production of the Corvette for one model year - I believe it was Model Year 1983. And since Cheverolet was purchased by GM before the production of the first Corvette was the first Corvette truly a Chevrolet Corvette or just a GM with a Chevrolet Emblem on it?

Best,

Mike

1Marine, of course companies are allowed to move and their founders can die. Those are natural occurrences in the life of a company. Going out of production for 4 or 5 decades then being 'restarted' in a completely different facility run by completely different people using completely different tooling...that's called reproduction.



AmarilloMike, you're really grasping at straws. I'm making my argument on a 'grown up' level, not a 4th Grade level.

Had they stopped making Parkers for one year, that wouldn't bother me. 4 or 5 decades is another story. Moreover, regardless of whether they produced Corvettes in 1983 or not, there has never been a day gone by that you couldn't walk into a Chevy dealer and buy a new Corvette.

Well it's good to know companies are allowed move and especially to know that founders are allowed to die.

I think I'm going to have a Reproduction Walnetto with my coffee.
http://www.walnettosinc.com/html/about.htm

GregSY I have mixed feelings about all the Reproductions. But I think I see a wider swath of grey in between the black and the white than you do. A hand fitted hand engraved hand checkered gun with bone charcoal case hardening, carefully regulated, custom made by American craftsmen under license by Remington gets immense respect and admiration from me. I certainly don't have the credentials to declare it genuine or bogus. Tony purchased the trademarks and rights to the Fox guns. If a gunsmith needs part for a 21 he goes to Galazan. Seems pretty authentic to me.

Sticking a sideplate on a Turkish Boxlock and calling it an LC Smith doesn't strike me as being a reproduction. What Skeuse did with the Parkers is a Reproduction (a very good one) and it says it is a reproduction right on the gun.

I don't know what it has to do with anything but there was a year that you couldn't go into a Chevy dealership and purchase a new Corvette. They stopped making them for a year.

Best,

Mike

GregSY,

I think you and I can agree to disagree or what makes something a repo or not. The bottomline is Mr. Galazan is making one hell of a fine gun. Weather it be the Model 21, Fox, Parker, RBL, and the rest of his products I have seen. If you want to call them Repo's you are not hurting my feelings. They are what they are. To me that would be beautiful American made doubles.