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Took leasons from Gill Ash years back.I believe he was working with about eight of us.At some time durning the day he took everyones gun from their hands and hit the targets they were missing many time and never missed a shot.When he broke crossing targets with my cyl Daly at 70yards eight out of ten shots I knew from then on every target I missed was my fault.

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Beware gentlemen, CAUTION!...we are in the company of an "ARMCHAIR SPORTSMAN".

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Perhaps you'd care to point him out for us?

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I know this hasn't come up in the conversation, yet. However, many modern competition guns have pronounced Monte Carlo stocks or stocks with adjustable buttplates that result in a "drop at heel" measurement of three inches. Drop at heel doesn't mean squat if the face can be placed comfortably on the comb area and the shooter's eye can see over the sighting plane. Many of my older collector doubles with fairly severe drop at heel are quite comfortable to shoot. Some of them would be bad medicine in the hands of a shooter more talented than I. If you doubt that old field guns can be used successfully in competition, attend the Smith versus Parker Challenge at the Southern Side by Side. Of course there are many "also ran" scores, but the shooters who make the cut for team membership are not all shooting high stocked, vent rib, dedicated sporting guns.

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Originally Posted By: GregSY


Think about your body, then think of 1/2" - it's hardly anything.


Greg, you ever shoot a rifle much? Remember that a shotgun has no rear sight. Your eye is your rear sight. Try sighting in a rifle, then move your eye half an inch in any direction. Tell me what you hit--if anything. A shotgun, of course, is less precise and is a closer range weapon. But while 1/2" may be hardly nothing as far as your "body" is concerned, it's a whole lot to be off as a rear sighting device.

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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
I had never heard of it either...but that doesn't mean it didn't exist.

I've saw his medals and vaguely remember the story in the Memphis Commercial Appeal. It was in the World Olympics in the 1970's I believe he also won medals in the original Flintlock pistol competition. His name is Ed Mason another Memphis Gunsmith competed also, Mr. HySmith.


Joe, it either exists or it doesn't (or didn't). Maybe you can do better than I can, but I could not find any flintlock pistol category in Olympic competition. Could be your friend won a medal in pistol shooting, but I'm skeptical that it was flintlock pistol.

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Here's a complete list of events and medalists 1896-current
http://www.issf-shooting.org/_data/medallist/ALL_OG_Medallists_1896_2000.pdf
from the ISSF site
http://www.issf-shooting.org/championships/historical_results.asp
There are usually a number of 'demonstration' events at the Olympics however.

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I was mistaken it was the MLAIC...Muzzle Loaders Associations International Committee World governing body for muzzle loading shooting he shot in Switzerland, Spain, England and the USA.

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j0e must be the Lazyboy sportsman then?

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Lowell what is that supposed to mean ?

I kill more game every year than you do in your dreams.

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