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I personally don't like shooting with my neck all crunched over.

But, the pigeon guns even in the old days were shot from a mounted gun position, weren't they? So I would have expected them to have less drop then as now.

I just think too much emphasis is placed on 'gun fit' to the point that we have experience shooters who feel they can't function unless the gun is perfect for them. I think a truly good shooter can hit with just about anything given a few warmup shots.

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Originally Posted By: GregSY
Didn't shooters 100 years ago do well with 3" guns?

I thought they built guns with 3" of drop so people would spend more money on ammo ?

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[/quote]I just think too much emphasis is placed on 'gun fit' to the point that we have experience shooters who feel they can't function unless the gun is perfect for them. I think a truly good shooter can hit with just about anything given a few warmup shots. [/quote]

You can't make this stuff up, folks. Here, we have the argument AGAINST gunfit, and a well fitted gun for improving shooting. 3" of drop is no problem, or, shouldn't be, with a few warmup rounds.

God save the queen.
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The man says he can shoot well with 3" of drop and guns not fitted to him. I wish I could do the same. I can't hit squat consistantly unless the gun is in the 1 1/2" x 2 3/8" x 14" range within about a 1/8" or less on the drop. My old Parker dimensions make me drop about twice as many birds.

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If you have time to aim--and you have relatively little time on a flying target--then adjustments are not as big a deal. If you don't have time to aim, the less you need to adjust, the better you're going to hit.

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A gun that fits is one thing; a gun that needs to fit within 1/8" is another.

Does anyone here think that if you handed a guitar to Eric Clapton, one he'd never seen before and that had never been 'fitted' to him, that he couldn't hammer out a tune with it?

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While Clapton plays, a good dancer should be able to show off his stuff in a pair of shoes three sizes too small.

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Greg, You are debating with some folks who really do shoot quite a bit. I presume, by your discussion, that you can pick up almost anything and hit 45+ on your local clays course. That is a real gift about which you should feel very blessed.

I suspect many of the contibutors to this board can shoot similar scores, but most of us need a gun that fits into a fairly tight profile to do it regularly. For instance, I need a LOP of between 14 1/4 and 14 3/4 with 14 1/2 as about ideal. As I move in any direction away from 14 1/2, I have to think a lot more about the shot; not a good thing with a shotgun. I have a similar band of usefulness with respect to drop. 3" is well outside that limit for me. Doesn't mean I can't hit a target with such a gun; just that I would have to think about it a lot.

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I'm a good shot but not that good, on most days. The difference is I understand the true need to hit every target, or animal, doesn't exist. I'd rather hit 40 with a wonderful Parker than 42 with some soul-less gun made in Bulgaria in 1996.

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If you are aimimg your gun stock fit is very important. if you use hand eye type shooting like Tom Knapp it don't mean much. Putting your finger to your face for bow shooting is much more important than a shotgun gun stock hitting the exact spot every time.

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