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"King, there is very little land in the US where one can go to 'get away from it all'. Of course, there are places you can do that - but you'd better not hope for any stores, medical care, or gasoline within 75 miles.
Canadians lead a charmed life by virtue of their proximity to the US. They have some of the most beautiful, pristine land there is - and don't have to do anything to defend it. "

GregSY,
I have to disagree about the "don't do anything to defend it." The Canadians have gone with us into every modern conflict. They are in Bosnia and Afghanistan right now and have lost many soldiers. That was a cheap shot. The Canadians are some of the best people in the world. And the Canadian Armed forces are VERY generous with their beer if you meet them in the pub. But they are a sovreign nation, not our puppets.

Posting land? What can you do? New Hampshire has a fine tradtion of not posting land against "traditional uses." The landowner who doesn't post is a saint. My land was dumped on and abused by those "traditional" users. When I move back, I'll be hard pressed not to post.

GregSY

Your remark about Canadians not defending or paying a price for their freedom is wrong. Shows your youth, which is not a sin. They have lost thousands of young men, in all the major wars of the last 100 years. I may pick on our northern brothers from time to time but can assure you that they have paid a fair price for all their freedom that they enjoy. They sent thousand of men on the beaches on day. They lost thousands of men in WWI. When the need was there, they like the British, have always come along with us, (US), to do what had to be done. God Bless the people of Canada. If the world was full of them we would have a much better world.

Quieter, anyway. And a Tim Horton's on every corner!

I have more respect for the Canadian fighting man than I do for his government - and I suspect most Canadians feel the same way about Americans.

You got that right, jack. Thanks.

Lowell-

Don't know if your just wakin' up, but what you describe is a fact of life in rural MO. Tried and true remedy is to advertise to your neighbors how ya like to hunt varmints an' such at night without a spotlight wif yor 44mag an haf emte bottl a hootch, jes lookin' fer the whites of dem eyes by da moon, or how gud ya r at "sound shots" at enthin' ya heer rustlin'...an fer da kup da graw-ya gots so meni conibears spred al-over, ya has ta war dem steel-to'd boots jest to git doun to fede dem fish in yor pond, lest ya loos anudder to. Maeks em thenk, duhe r donhe.

yer (frenly)nabor
skatr2

Hmm......without Canada the US might lose 'some' economic benefit but it would hardly bring us to our knees. Without the US there would be no Canada - it would long ago have been overrun by Russia, or the Germans, or the French, or....Canada may have done their part in wars, per capita, but it's a small part nonetheless. Would WWII have come out differently without the Canadians? I think not.

I like Canada just fine and I can gladly admit they have the best looking women of any country I've been to. But they are some of the sharpest critics of the US you'll find and that tends to rub me the wrong way. That's my point and it is well made and has nothing to do with how many soldiers they sent to Iraq. Or my age. I find that when someone has no legs in an argument they fall back on age, name calling, beer, or some other extraneous factors.

Yikes! Without Canada, we'd have Russians, or Germans, or the French on our border?!! Thank God for the Canadians!

I agree, I love Canada and it's people. We as American's, are kind of behind the 8 ball, when it comes to knowing our nothern neighbor. The Canadian's know more about us, then we seem to know about them. If I couldn't live here, I would love to live there.

One of the things I see about the outdoor climate in Canada, is the same thing we have here, the press. We used to make yearly trips to the area east of Peterbrough, Ontario. Had a beautiful lake that you had to carry your boat into to fish, since there was no other way in. Only a narrow 2 track "road" went in. Then the magazines editors found this prestine lake and wrote a story about it. This was about in 1982. In a very few short years, there was a wide paved road and boat ramp to the lake. A time spent fishing on the 10 mile long lake, fishing all by yourself, was now shared with a zoo of bass boats and the trash carried in by all these "sportsman". The fishing went south as the preasure went north. We no longer go.

It is the same here though. The people who write the outdoor stories, have encouraged the population to go to certan areas for recreation. That area then becomes over run, until it is ruined. Locally here, all a person had to do was ask permission to hunt or fish, and as a local, I still can. But it is changing. The outdoor writers have encouraged the leasing of ground, for recreation. Not in itself is that a bad thing. But it has made it a "money" thing for the poor versus comfortably healed, to find a place to outdoor recreate. Soon you will either own the property you hunt on or pay a pretty healthy fee to be on it. It then limits, the number of people who are voters to maintain our outdoor and gun rights. Since, it you can't afford to do it, you don't care. It has now become a circle. If you can't afford to pay to play, you become a tresspasser. The wrath of every landowner is upon you and rightfully so.

I am in this group. I now own the ground I hunt on. I don't ever have to look over my shoulder and there better be no one else there but me, my family or my invited friends. 25 yrs. ago, this wasn't the case. The word was out in the press, you either own it, or pay to play on it. In a sense,I have become my own enemy.

The locals have been known to recycle an ice box or two in the ravine. Funny how people so close to the land, would treat it in such a way. I know urbans who recycle their dental floss!
Its prolly time for new DNA in the sticks anyway eh!

My gosh, Lowell. You remind me of that ol' geezer who had a farm near here when I was a kid. We used to sneak over on his farm to hunt. Sometimes when we got bored we would ride his cows around the fields and pretend they were horses. One morning when I was getting on the school bus I noticed his cows and horses were scattered all over our subdivision eating grass. I never could figure out why he didn't just put a gate up for me to keep me from having to crush his fences to the ground. That way I wouldn't get cut on his stupid bobbed wire fence. Have you ever entertained the thought of getting a condo in the city? Country life just doesn't seem to fit your pistol.