Jay,
I believe that you misinterpret my use of "kid" gun to be derogatory. I like the idea of an 870- 28 gauge because I can put a load in that will not hammer my 11 year old daughter, patterns far better than .410, is light enough for her to carry. Yet I don't have the same concerns as having a young person carrying a costly double gun. And I can use it in poor weather. An 870 Wingmaster was my very first shotgun at 12 years old, it was 12 gauge. I am 50. I still own the gun. I load 28 gauge and shoot that gauge often.

Do you(or any others) have any idea of the value of the gun that I described? Tom28ga- Thanks for your input!