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Walter,
The square jawed Bird dogs and tail angles sure look like Loy's work.
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That was my thought as the game scenes look very much like a piece on a signed Loy work. The scroll may be by a different hand. I know Ithaca had more the one engraver work on a gun. eg. Jay Leech did borders, etc, and Bill McGraw did the game scenes.
Last edited by Walter C. Snyder; 03/31/08 08:04 PM.
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Walt, This is a Rem. M17E, not sure of the vintage. Any idea who did this work? Rob 
My problem lies in reconciling my gross habits with my net income.
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Rob, Sure don't. Not Loy though. It is to bad for us that most gun companies prohibited the engraver from signing their work. A very nice M-17. Is this the one you are trying to buy?? I saw the 16 ga. NID at Gunter's the other day. Pretty much as I sent it to him. He is swamped with work, must stop recommending him.
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Walter,
I think that is the answer. Loy did the animals and someone else
did the scrolls. The dogs look too similar to his earlier work but slightly better.
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One and the same Walt. I've put it in the back of my mind, if it comes my way, so be it but the owner just lets it get worse. I haven't handled the gun in a couple of years and realize that I never inspected it for a signature. If I ever get another chance I certainly will, if only for the database.
It's good to hear that Gunter's work attracts a demanding clientèle, too bad for you though.
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You guys are recommending your gunsmith to others? What are you thinking? By the way, I saw a selection of Walt's guns in a gunsmith's shop the other day. Mine are there too. Don't worry, Walt, I'll never tell. Murphy
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The bird's and dog's on your gun look the same as the one's on my Rem. DEO 16ga that is engraved by Loy.
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Walt, Any idea what this fine engraving would cost today, I have a model 11 and was wondering.
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Murphy,
I sure don't. But it will be a lot. Jay Leech started as an apprentice at Ithaca for 10 cents an hour. That was in 1915. Times and values have changed. Perhaps Mr. Ken will give us a guesstiment.
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