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I just took out my 12ga 28" ejector and suspended it from my Berkley tournament scale. It came in at 6lb13oz, so my old antique scale was off by 5oz.  The wood on my gun looks like that found on pre-WWII Mod.70s or Mod. 37 I used to own (identical shade to that found on gun pictured on pg. 142 of 2004ed of McIntoshs Fox book) with about 95% ole' varnish remaining. The wood color on the ones I see on sale seems to be on lighter side just like on this one. 
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My honest original Philly 16 ga. 28 inch with #3 barrels weighs in at 6lb 6oz; wood color looks similar but my 95% case colors don't look anywhere near that 'focused' if the term makes any sense (ie. where the heat was applied with the torch). It just makes me wonder: Is it even possible that a 30 inch with 4 weight barrels could weigh that little? I'm sure you guys that know for real will answer the query. Just another opinion.
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Fin2 what looks odd about the case colors to you? Not challenging you, just trying to calibrate my case color judger.
Best,
Mike Mike, Fox colors always have looked more wavy and flowing to me, as opposed to the more blotchy look I see here. I also think of Fox colors having lots of rust and blue tones, where I see a greenish tint here. Always hard to tell in photos though, and certainly JMHO... Fin
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Taking measure from the photos, if that's 2-1/4" drop at heel, then the LOP is about 11-1/4".
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My 1923 16 ga. Sterlingworth with 28" #3 barrels weighs 6 lbs. even. Drop at heel is a very shootable 2 5/8". My Fox catalog reprint from approx. 1923 states that 16 ga. weights varied from 5 3/4 lbs. to 6 lbs. 10 oz. Drop at heel could be changed 3/8" either way for $3.50. Length of pull could be specified for $2.00. Any boring could be ordered at no charge. Mine were special ordered at cylinder and modified. So the "stock" Sterlingworth could be ordered at different weights/barrel lengths. Drop,length and boring could be specified within reason. Quite a bit of variance for a standard gun. Maybe someone had it bent to 2 1/4". McIntosh says in his book that the factory bent over backwards to accomidate requests so maybe it was built that way. A letter would help verify the original configuration. As to whether it's worth the asking price, I don't know. It's not to me.
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It's worth 4k just as 16 is a small-bore! MUUUCHO 
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Don't think the Sterlingworth is a bargain anymore, which is why many have 'em and gone are those days. I'm new to the American vintage game, and am willing to pay for what they are worth now.
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Im sorry but 4k for a sterly, I love Fox shotguns, I have one in 20, 16 and 12, but would never pay 4k for a 16 or 12, maybe a 20 in excellent condition. Unfortunatly to many collectors buy these wonderful guns, and pay way to much for them.
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