Selling a "general proposition" can be fairly easy, when the buyers in question don't know much about the subject at hand. But let's try another general proposition. Just like universal health care, this one is also backed up by facts and data from foreign countries:

1. Most foreign countries have stricter gun laws than the United States.
2. The homicide rate in those countries with stricter gun laws is significantly lower than in the United States.

So . . . have I successfully made the case for stricter gun laws in this country? I have a feeling that I have not, especially not to the folks that patronize doublegunshop, because they are far better versed than your average American on the subject of guns and gun laws.

Now we're back to the original subject of the thread: the right to keep and bear arms.