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"Needs" are food, water and sex. Everything else is a "want"

Yes. The Kirkwood shop sold shells with "KIRKWOOD" Printed on the plug along with shot size. Shell boxes were Marked "D Kirkwood" before David's death in 1897 then "Kirkwood Bros"-
well into the earley 1900's. These boxes are quiet expensive.
Bill

Please disrequard my above post-sent it on the wrong Post
Bill

In Vegas CSMC had a number of configurations available. I found the 30" barrels to have a much better MOI for me. The gun is still light but not nearly as whippy as the 28". And, as an aside, the 30" tubes did have a really attractive profile.

Everyone seems to love long barrels these days. I think this is an offshoot of the Sporting Clays influence where 32" barrels have become the norm. I understand the arguments with steadier swings. Some may need the weight to keep the barrel moving. If that is you, so be it.

I personally like a quick gun. For a field gun, I like 28" barrels on a 12 bore. I shot my Sterlingworth 20 bore with 26" barrels in S. Dakota this year like a magic wand. For me, the smaller the gauge, the more I like short barrels. I would not even consider a 30" 28 or .410.

I know several folks who are very proud of their 30 inch 410s or 28s. I don't know if it is for real or just part of the current trend.

My advice is to see if you can shoot both. Get what feels right. You can probably tell just by handling the guns.

As for chokes, they can always be opened. But you can't close em down. As well, with a small gauge gun, it is not bad to have a little denser pattern for killing. Try them and see if you like them.

Regards, Jake

Chuck,

Aint you supposed to sent the dog up the hill to flush the birds down to you waiting at the bottom? Then you could use one of those 30"ers.

Bill G.

Chuck, I hunt in similar terrian and people just don't understand why I don't my high-end guns. Sometimes it's all you can do to keep from falling

Heck Mike, that's why I mostly quail hunt this patch; chukar terrain is just 10x bigger. These are just speed bumps to a regular chukar hunter.

Let me throw you another curve ball. I have always liked short barrelled guns for upland hunting, especially in rough terrain. The main reason I would buy a 28 ga. to use instead of a 20 ga would be to save on weight and to have a more manuverable gun. What else does the 28 ga really have to offer over a 12 or a 20? So, unless you shoot as poorly with 26" barrels as the "experts" would have you believe you will, why would you want to drag around the extra weight and fight your way through heavy cover with the extra length of longer barrels? My favorite upland gun (not perfect) is a lightweight 12 ga., 26" barrelled Parker, choked cyl and full. It doesn't tear up birds on close shots, and I can usually wait a second or 2 if the follow up shot seems to be too close for the full choke barrel. And when I have to take a long shot, I have the appropriate choke to do so. That would seem even more important with a 28 ga. And while I admit I'm more comfortable shooting a long barrelled gun for trap, barrel length does not seem to affect my skeet shooting (which is more akin to the bird hunting I do)one way or the other.

I don't know what you think, Amarillo Mike, but he kinda looks like a Dez Young wannabee to me.