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God bless the fine men and women in the U.S. military
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I would sure buy it at that price. I have O'Connors book in front of me, and he has nothing but good to say about the Arizaga except for the single trigger. He had two, a 28 and a 20. On the 28 "The single trigger doubled on me a few times and I had it fixed locally and now it works all right. It handles like a flash, and I have killed a lot of game with it" On the 20 " I sent the gun to Miller and had a non selective single trigger put in. My troubles are over, It is a dandy"
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Hi, my 2c worth the gun is as you know is made by Gasper, O'Connor's gun was made by Eusebio. There is a world of difference between these two makers. Gasper was the low to medium end maker, where Eusebio was more of a custom/semi-custom higher end maker.
The saying goes with spanish guns of this period to buy the gun. It is very true, some of the earlier spanish guns looked great, but the insides were a whole different matter.
As to the price - I must say even for a Gasper it is not bad. Considering you can buy a Stoeger or Spartan SxS for the same $$$, I think the Gasper would handle more like a "Classic SxS not a 2x4.
Good Luck to you om whatever you decide!!
All the best!
Greg
Gregory J. Westberg
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Spanish guns are like Italian women. Read into that what you like.
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Woops--good catch, Greg. Too many makers with the same darned name, in both Spain and Italy! But I agree it's hard to buy much for $375 these days.
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Larry,
My gun was a Gaspar Arizaga and had a single trigger. One issue was the single trigger, but the other issue was the sears, lifters, and hammers were all very crudely made, did not match in size (left to right), and were very soft. It may sound hard to believe but the metal was so soft I could bend it in my hands. The barrels however seem to be of good quality. Have to admit, however, when I bought the gun I was attracted by the exterior flash.
But there are just too many other good, inexpensive guns out there for just a few dollars more. Several examples would be an older Ugartechea M-30, a Victor Sarasqueta SLNE imported by Stoeger, the Urbiola SLE on gunbroker for $700 (Thad Scotts), and an older AyA, etc... I have taken apart all these guns and there is a world of difference in the interior quality.
Leave the G. Arizaga to the cowboy shooters to chop up.
David
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Hey Dave, I saw that Urbiola on Thads site. He still wants $1250 on his site, yet $700 on Gunbroker. Strange, well, maybe not, its been on his site for a long time.
All the best!
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That's the "utility bill" special. And you thought it was warm in Mizzippa.
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That Urbiola "utility bill" special is actually a fairly decent gun for $700. The locks inside are decent, engraving is good --just a fairly good honest inexpensive SLE. I never had a problem with mine. Paid $750 for it and sold it for $1250 after I shot it for several years. The forend is a little bulky and could be trimmed down for my taste and I would take some wood out of the back of the sock to make it feel a little lighter and more lively, but for the price it can't be beat.
I also had a Uggie 110 (?) plain jane no engraving SLE from around the same period in an English configuration. Another little sleeper.
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No argument here. I came unto a triple-proofed Charlin by this exact route: 1400 in the fuzzy precincts of Thadworld; 800 from GB with no competition. If those barrels and that case color residue could be found on a Parker, most here would be falling down in adoration. Skeet can be relied on to wring those little problems out of an old gun. The Charlin has never failed on several 100 rnd. Sunday mornings; some of that ammo was not the DietLite that I reload and the darn[e] thing fits and hits. I also have a bargain Uggie 221 with very few miles and an AyA numba 2 which arrived with a very sketchy left side trigger and sear since corrected at small expense and some sweat equity. Some of us have attempted the Eurogun tour on "five dollars a day" and have possibly suffered no worse disappointment than have those who pursue the American "shooter".
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