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I sold this gun to a close friend.
I had had 28ga tubes by Briley installed. The left tube would move in on firing. In my presence, Chuck Webb told his workman to make a new tube. The workman did not, instead he shortened the firing pins. Now the gun worked well with 28s but fired intermittently with 12s. It took seven months to get new firing pins from Famars. It now fires 12s without a problem but the 28 tube moves in. Knowing all this my friend bought the gun anyway at a give away price.

Briley says the problem is caused by soft metal rings in the chambers and that the left is more worn than the right and they will install new and harder metal rings. My friend has ordered the work done as well as 20 and 410 tubes.

Can anyone explain what they are talking about ?

danc

Is it report from the Moon?

No. My friend is retired from NASA but never went to the moon.
danc

This is a wild guess but I think they may be suggesting the 12 ga. ejector is soft allowing the tube to push past the ejector rim (not ring). Just a guess.

Ken

Shortened the firing pins on a $20,000 gun? I doubt that they did that. I would attempt to get the real story. Briley tubes are not rocket science and any problem with their operation is solved by working on the tube, not the gun.

He shortened the firing pins. Famars supplied two sets both of which were measureably longer. You did not need a micrometer to see that they were of two different lengths and both were longer than the pins that were in the gun when it came back from Briley along with the bill [$25.00]to pay for the shortening.
danc

This has the ring of something not being the straight skinny.

Chuck Webb is a stand up guy, ask him WTH is being spoken of.

The only 'ring' that comes to mind might be a ref to the tube's outer periphery or 'rim', but that's a guess on my part. That would at least fit w/the tube being driven forward and his telling the workman to make another one.

Thanks for getting on my side of the opinion poll, TW. Your first sentence says it all. We are not hearing the whole story here.

Sounds like the story is coming from the moon.

Good morning Ken,

Sorry, but what do you mean by "the 12 ga. ejector is soft"? Soft as in made out
of lead? A soft ejector on a Famars Castore that I doubt!

I would think the tube was not made to match the groove or rim of the ejector. It is
smaller and that is why, on firing, it gets pushed in. And also why the workman was
asked to make a new one. He may have tried to wiggle his way out of making another
tube (for which he was not going to be paid, having bungled the first one) by giving
out a very lame explanation and shortening the firing pins.
And surely the upstanding Chuck Webb knows nothing of his workman's shenanigans.

8b, why doubt Crawley? What am I am missing?

JC