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Diamond grade Lindner 12ga with very pretty damascus barrels plus two other sets of more recent Belgium barrels in 12 and 10 ga magnum. The damascus barrels appear to have been cut a couple inches, plus they have been reamed to .760 bore diameter. One barrel is cylinder the other has about .007 constriction very near the end. Buttstock is proud of the metal with sharp wood edges of very nice walnut with almost new finish - I think it is a replacement and it has 13inch LOP to the rear trigger over a very recent leather covered pad. Forend is probably original, but split from rear to the tip of the forend latch escutcheon. They want $9000 plus for it. Damascus barrel walls are still very thick. The gun is marked with Crown over pistols and no proof marks sn 3304. I think it is clearly an 1880s gun. Prussia on the action table. Action is the earlier straight back type, arcaded fences and while there is a little color left on it I think it has been polished along with the trigger guard. Those damascus barrels sure are pretty though. Brevette on face between firing pins. Beautiful engraving on too shiney metal. Belgium proofs on new barrel and action which I assume happened at time barrels were retrofitted.
Second Chas Daly (non Lindner, non Sauer(I think) with German proofs post 1911. No other makers marks. Superior grade marked on rib of Krupp Lauft steel barrels. A 12ga with ejectors in nice condition and appears to be original except for the old ventilated recoil pad. Left barrel has small ring bulge about 2/3d of way to muzzle which is not real apparent but there. Barrels look to have been refinished. They want about $4000 for that one.
Something I have not seen before on Daly guns, the second gun has small cartouche on bottom of stock just behind pistol grip "made in Germany". Is this a clue to maker?
I passed on both.
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The Made in Germany dictates (U.S.A. Trade Law) that it was made for the American market and post 1921. It is most probably a Schuler gun as he took over building guns for Daly when Lindner retired in 1917. It should have a five digit serial number of somewhere around 25000 and up. It should be of very good quality as Lindner was still Daly's agent in Suhl and approved the Daly guns. It would be an almost unheard of Sauer gun if it does not have a Sauer mark. Best, John
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John, you are confirming what I thought about the second gun. SN was 26000 range. I like the gun but the ring bulge puts me off as much as the guys that play dumb when dealing with them on the thing.
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I believe the "country of origin" stamp was much earlier than 1921 and either was a result of the Mckinley Tariff(mainly agricultural) or some similar act around 1890 during an attempt at isolation as for the momement my memory of history fails me. First was just a stamp of the "country" or origin and a short time later the stamp was "made in" country of origin. I concur with Mr. Lape for the late 1880s as I have a couple in the 3300 range with the A&D "Brevete" stamp which ceased around 1890 after 14(or so?) years from the original 1875 patent date. I have looked at the 2 barrel set(German & Belgian tubes) for some time but the price is out of reason.
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Jerry: could you possibly either post some pictures of this gun or give us a link to it on Cabelas site? Jim
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Well the gun itself is certainly attractive enough but the stock to me looks like something you'd see on a Weatherby magnum. IMO: It's just not in keeping with the rest of the gun. Jim
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You can see the second gun by going to the address Pete M posted and then searching for Charles Daly Superior grade. Their description lackx any notice about the ring bulged barrel or the bugger trigger plate screw. All the other screws are perfect. I doubt the finish on the barrels is original however.
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The multi barrel set sounds like a gun I looked at about ten years ago at Bob Posner's San Francisco Gun Exchange. However, the damascus barrels were 10 gauge (as these seem to be also from the .760" bore).
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Jim, the stock is short. The 14" LOP is to the front trigger. The true length of pull is exactly 13" from the back trigger and is short for me, I usually shoot 14 1/4-14 1/2. This one is way shorter. It is not the original stock, proud of the metal and the little black teat on the grip is misplaced - too far forward and not uniformly black. Flute at the nose of comb is also not right.
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