You know what Mr. crowshooter your right i dont know what it was like to shoot lead, but i find it so hard to believe that it was so magical. Ive shot steel every season i've waterfowled and i have built my method of shotgunning around high velocity magnum 3.5 steel. I find it perfectly effective for the way i hunt and what i need it to do. Yes ive had to shoot cripples and sure ive seen them fly away with shot in them. To counter this ive tried to wait until i had them at a comfortable range for me and this in my experience has worked.

Im not shrugging anything at your oh so awesome collection of guns that could never be within my reach of owning. The reason im on this forum is because i picked up a sterlingworth that i fell in love with. I managed to save up money and make payments just to get the thing. When i bought it however i realized that with a gun of this age there were going to be inherent costs to shooting it for my main purpose of waterfowl. I blew 30 bucks in ten shots the first time i took it out on the lake and missed every duck i shot at with it.

Do you really think that any of those hunters lost because of the death of lead would be there to fight anti's if we still had lead. I dont think there was a one of them that was a dyed in the wool waterfowler. If all that it takes to discourage some one from hunting is a change in shot then why would they bother to stand up and fight for gun rights, or hunting rights.

Again im not saying im for a ban on lead as people seemingly think i am. This got itself into being an argument over whether or not steel is good for ducks. As for an alternative to lead in my fox i shoot hevi shot classic double. Im trying it i dont know what it will do in the long run but its supposed to be safe for old guns and i will see how it goes.