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vh20....if you can get your hands on the "Blanks to Supersonics" manual from PRI there are a few in there at 1 3/8 that would work fine as-is and a couple at 1 1/2oz that could be dummied down.

The roll crimper they sell is top-notch and would help in your quest.

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Don, Thanks for taking the time to write on your LC 16. Hog tooth marks on the stock. You could really work that into a bear fight story or something. Randy


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A bear would be a piece of cake compared to a 500 pound sow!


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I bought a NEF 12b turkey special with the x-full choke. Patterns about fifty kajillion pellets on a turkey head/neck at 30 yds and kicks hard enough to make a mule blush. Talk about overkill. I thought I would like the light weight and short barrel, but I think I would rather try my longbow instead.

My dream turkey gun would be a 28" 16b xx chain damascus Lefever choked mod/full or full and fuller. 1 oz. of 5's up to 30 yds. would do the trick just fine, especially since I've never had reason to shoot at a turkey past 25 yds. Anyone have such a gun? I'll trade my NEF straight across


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Originally Posted By: marklart
I bought a NEF 12b turkey special with the x-full choke. Patterns about fifty kajillion pellets on a turkey head/neck at 30 yds and kicks hard enough to make a mule blush. Talk about overkill. I thought I would like the light weight and short barrel, but I think I would rather try my longbow instead.


Yeah, that's what I use for turkeys. The short 3.5" chambered 22" barrel was horrible, but NEF sells all sorts of aftermarket stuff. I bought a 28" barrel for it with screw in chokes and added a heavy steel counterweight inside the through-bolt hole, which is "set" with a screw to keep it in place and quiet. Wrapped up in camo tape it disappears in the woods and balances all right for carrying and shooting heavy turkey loads.

One shot seems to be plenty and I like the safety feature with the hammer which prevents a discharge unless the finger stays on the trigger. One long-beard at a time is all I want to tote out of the woods. I know you can usually get them close enough for about any old gun to work, but I can't get over the prejudice that if I am armed with a gun that won't reliably kill at 40 yards, all I will see is 40 yard turkeys.

I do use the doubles for at least one gobbler every year, but the NEF is my go-to turkey gun...Geo

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Originally Posted By: Don Moody
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BUT, Hey Don, 50 years using the same gun, WOW!! We need photos and a chronology of you and the LC 16. When/How did you get it and the highlights of the years with the LC. Don't let us down, that will be a great story. Randy


The gun belonged to my Dad. He as the second owner. The first owner was a Doctor Seagraves, from Era, Texas, who bought the gun new. He was an old country doctor who made his rounds in a buggy. He carried the L.C. Smith with him in the buggy.
His Grandson and my Dad were best friends all their lives. The families were very close friends.
For reasons that I am not clear about, the Doctor left instructions to have the gun given to my Dad upon the death of the Doctor. The was in the late '30s or early '40s.
Dad went into the Army in 1943 and I was born in 1945.
Dad was not a bird hunter in the true sense of the word. He was a pot hunter and rarely shot at birds on the wing. However, several of his friends were excellent wing shots. He killed a lot of quail and upland plovers, but not many in the air.
After the war was over, Dad got a job as the foreman on a ranch in Arizona. When I got old enough to be the "bird dog" for Dad's friends, he would take them hunting for Gambel's Quail. While I picked up the birds from the wing shooters, Dad would stay a the pickup and shoot quail that ran by on the ground with the ole Smith. Yes, there were that many quail. The coveys had hundreds of birds.
He used the ole gun for all types of critters at the ranch, rattlesnakes, skunks, coons, and even large red bats. They would roost in the eves of the ranch building. Dad would take the shot out of the shells and replace it with rock salt to shoot the bats and not damage the buildings.
We moved back to Texas when I was 10 years old. I started using the ole gun when it was 12. I killed my first flying doves and quail with it and I killed a lot of ducks with it over the years. It was the only shotgun I had for several years and I got pretty good with it. I regularly took limits(on the wing) of Quail,Doves and Ducks with it. I even used it for trap and sheet.
When I was 16, I bought a Browning Double Auto and used it for trap and skeet. I bought a 12 gauge Model 12 Skeet Grade for skeet when I was 18 and a 12 gauge Model 101, 30" Field Grade for trap when I was 19. As they say the rest is history.
Dad liked to go hunting with me, but he rarely carried a gun. He loved to watch the dogs work the quail.
One time, he did carry the ole Smith on a quail hunt with me. I was using the Model 12 and had killed a couple of quail on the covey rise in the corner of a hog pasture. The dog retrieved one of the birds but we were having trouble finding the other one. Dad leaned the Smith against the wooden fence of a hog pen nearby and came to help find the bird. The dog finally found it. We then heard grunting of a hog and looked around to see a 500 pound sow carrying the L.C. Smith in her jaws by the stock with the barrels sticking straight out to the side! This went on for several minutes. Needless to say, there were some major concerns until that ole sow decided to let go of the gun. The only damage to the Smith were tooth marks left in the butt stock. They are an interesting reminder of a great day in the field with my Dad.

I have still continued to use the L.C. Smith for a few hunts every year. It has become my go to Turkey gun.

I'm sure that is more than you wanted to know.





Don...........thanks for sharing, what a great memory!

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I know you can usually get them close enough for about any old gun to work, but I can't get over the prejudice that if I am armed with a gun that won't reliably kill at 40 yards, all I will see is 40 yard turkeys.

I do use the doubles for at least one gobbler every year, but the NEF is my go-to turkey gun...Geo


I know what you mean. That's why I bought the NEF too. Which begs the question: How often are turkeys killed at ranges past 30 yds? I for one have only shot a few, but none past 25 yds. If that is generally the case for most people, then magnum turkey guns seem like a waste of time. Sez me, who owns one.


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My turkey hunting has usually been in fall and all I have killed were with rifles, at ranges from about 40 to 100+ meters. Typically, they were feeding past me and shot whenever a certain shot presented itself. I have sat and waited afterwards for flocks to reassamble, with birds coming much closer -- however these were one-bird a day seasons or one-bird seasons, so, no second turkeys.

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Truthfully, if I couldn't use a double for Turkey I wouldn't even bother shooting one. The only reason I go hunting is a chance to let the ol' SxS do its job.

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In line with turkey hunting in general & the first post's turkey dog remark ..

I have been reading a copy of a treatise by Zachariah N. Morrell, published 1872. It covers his years in Texas from 1835 forward. In it he tells of a turkey hunt near Huntsville, Tx in March of 1846 using turkey dogs that belonged to a Mr. Sanders. The dogs were loosed in the woods much as one would use ranging dogs for hunting quail on horseback. The dogs were used to flush & tree the feeding turkeys and the hunters kept up with or got to the dogs as soon as possible listening for the flutter of turkey wings rather than looking for a point or listening for the dogs to bark as a hound might. They dismounted to dispatch the treed turkey or turkeys. That partcular hunt he was utilizing a flintlock rifle & he had some reservations about pulling the trigger as the flushed & treed bird was near overhead & he was afraid holding the gun in perpendicular position that when the pan flew open that the powder would go into his eyes rather than taking fire. His solution was to take careful aim and close both eyes just as he pulled the trigger. As he was a preacher by profession, I expect there may have been a prayer as well. Had the powder not taken fire it would have been a miss and he could not have been able to reload in time for another opportunity at that tom. They had strong coffee and turkey for dinner, the flavor of the latter being described as "beyond description". He said it was cooked "hung before the fire in the regular backwoods style". His host had only "a good fire, a little log cabin covered, no floor, cracks not lined and no chimney."

edit: He makes no mention of the dogs type.

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