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Oops, sorry. I thought this was going to be a "Hillary" thread.
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"...it is always advisable to perceive clearly our ignorance."ť Charles Darwin
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re the lc smith: send it to mark larson for his artful grain paint job...
make sure you pack it well, fully insured for the full value of the whole gun and insist that mark do likewise for the full value of the gun, for the return shipment...
Last edited by ed good; 06/20/18 09:06 AM.
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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It took Ed ten years and plus to give us his wonderful advise.
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Good Evening Gentlemen, When cutting off a "Butt" with a Straight-Hand' I have reverted to my method of a very small Mortice & Tenon joint, Acra-Glass the 'Joint" then when all set-up,,,aprox 72 hrs, Under-side UP, into the milling machine, mill a as long as possible, and as deep as possible from each side of the "Joint" and as wide as the Trigger-Guard Tang the " Slot" Make & install a "French-Walnut Fillit" (Tradition calls for French Walnut)Fit the Fillit' in. Glue well & Good,Re-fit the trigger guard and I always try to use the original guard screws. Very much stronger than the original stock at that part of the "Hand" (Grip)I have set several stocks after this procedure. with no "Ill" effects. The smallest stock I Re-Butted" using this metod was a Westley 28 bore, Took the 12.1/2"length out to 14.7/8th. Bored & balanced it, now on the 3rd Generation in the same Family."Measure twice, then once again, Cut once" Hope this helps...cc/dt Can this be done in reverse? I have a stock with a very nice butt stock, but the wood around the locks has been broken beyond repair. Can you attach a new head to the old butt stock?
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Good Evening Gentlemen, When cutting off a "Butt" with a Straight-Hand' I have reverted to my method of a very small Mortice & Tenon joint, Acra-Glass the 'Joint" then when all set-up,,,aprox 72 hrs, Under-side UP, into the milling machine, mill a as long as possible, and as deep as possible from each side of the "Joint" and as wide as the Trigger-Guard Tang the " Slot" Make & install a "French-Walnut Fillit" (Tradition calls for French Walnut)Fit the Fillit' in. Glue well & Good,Re-fit the trigger guard and I always try to use the original guard screws. Very much stronger than the original stock at that part of the "Hand" (Grip)I have set several stocks after this procedure. with no "Ill" effects. The smallest stock I Re-Butted" using this metod was a Westley 28 bore, Took the 12.1/2"length out to 14.7/8th. Bored & balanced it, now on the 3rd Generation in the same Family."Measure twice, then once again, Cut once" Hope this helps...cc/dt Can this be done in reverse? I have a stock with a very nice butt stock, but the wood around the locks has been broken beyond repair. Can you attach a new head to the old butt stock? What is the point of that? most of the work is in the inletting. At that point, it is best to just restock.
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If you find a decent donor stock, for the head part, I would think it could be done just to save a great looking butt stock. I had a Belgian Guild gun which had a full wrist fracture, which I thought about just having a new wrist and head stock inlet then save the fancy butt stock to graft into it. Ended up doing a glass bed repair with new billets of French walnut to fix the broken center structure. Used the gun for a season with no problems. I tried the repair because I did not want to I let the new wood. Sometimes you can fix them and sometimes they just need to be lamps.
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Del Whitman did one in reverse on an Island Lock Purdey hammer gun. Came out nice but I think cost is probably close to restocking. The owner wanted to maintain as much of the original gun as he could.
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Allow me to clarify a point regarding “butt transplants” that most do not realize. The proceedure involves putting NEW wood onto an original head and wrist. Not taking half of one stock and attaching it to another.
I get asked about the former often. Not a good idea to attempt.
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Kody Kearcher did a butt transplant for me on a 20g Christophe SLE with excellent results in terms of both the requested dimensions and appearance.
The buttstock behind the grip had been very amateurly cut and spliced to change drop and length of pull and looked like Frankenstein, the the quality best engraving by Schoffeniels made it worth saving.
The wrist splice is slightly visible if you know it’s there.
Will see if I can get pics in next 24 hours
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