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I have a Browning Superposed (12) made in 1952. I'd say 90%+ (to me it seems nicer, but it has the usual hunting/ handling marks) Blueing is thinning on bottom of receiver from carrying. It is probably one of the nicer guns in my collection, but I can't get past the fact that while it does have 2 barrels - they are stacked one on top of the other. Thanks to this site, I have developed a passion for my guns to have their barrels side by side. I was thinking about trying to trade it off for a Browning SxS. Does anyone think that's a good idea? I don't know alot about those Browning SxS. Any opinions?
Lloyd Purvis - Director of Collegiate Scouting College Prospects of America cpoaohiovalley@yahoo.com
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I have owned both shotguns. I love the superposed and they are a wounderful value at this time. Made in Beligum, very collectable. The BSS were made in Japan, very nice side by sides. I would go out and handle a BSS and if it is what you are looking for, buy it! Your 1952 Grade I in 90% condition would have a low interest value to a collector. You could perhaps trade even for a mint BSS 12 or 20Ga. Just a few ideas. Sarge 105
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The BSS is a decent shotgun, but IMO they’re getting a bit over-priced. If you can find one at a good deal, I see nothing wrong with letting your Superposed go. Superposed shotguns aren’t all that rare, so if the move turns out to be a mistake, it’s one that can be undone. Just buy well and no harm should befall you. I have encountered some trigger problems with the BSS from time to time, but nothing that wasn’t easily fixed.
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I'd agree with Kevin. The BSS 20ga Sporters (straight grip guns) in particular are getting pretty pricey. The BSS 12's, while solid guns, tend to be on the heavy side. If you don't care whether the gun says Browning--and in the case of the BSS, they were made by Miroku anyhow--my suggestion would be to look around for a Miroku-made side by side, most of which will be marked Charles Daly. (But make sure that it's a Miroku-made Daly! The current Daly sxs aren't the guns you're looking for.) They're of equal quality to a BSS, but typically lighter and less expensive. Most will be double trigger/extractor guns. I think they're some of the best buys on the used market.
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That's a tough call. I currently have 3 BSS guns. 1 12g, and 2 20g BSS guns. I have only 1 Superposed. It's a 20g 2 bbl set. I like all of them. If I were to compare the 12g Super to the 12g BSS, I think I'd go with the Super. The 20g Super vs. a 20g BSS is a tougher call. Certainly, I'd rather have the 20g BSS than a 12g Super, but that's just me.
Keep the Super and get the 20g BSS.
If you must have a 12g, get a SKB or Beretta 4xx series. I think they're lighter and better handling.
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A short barrel 12 gauge BSS is not the sleek, good handling gun that a 1952 Super is. The only even trade I would consider would be for a 20 gauge BSS Sporter or a standard 20 gauge BSS with 28" barrels. Otherwise, I would keep the Super. Many collectors of high quality side by side shotguns have a major side interest in pre-1965 Supers.
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Aside from the exchange of an O/U for a SXS, I'd suggest you develop a purpose for the SXS. That purpose will largely direct you toward a suitable SXS. Measure the weight and balance of your Super. Now, consider the handling as you feel it. Ask yourself if you want lighter weight, differing balance point, and/or faster swing. Consider the weight and balance of a BSS in its various configurations. Does it meet your needs? If not, what might?
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Just for reference, my 12g 26" BSS is 7lbs 8oz. It has a relatively slow swing weight due to the heavy walled barrels which are common to all BSS guns, 12g and 20g alike.
My two 20g BSS guns are both 6lbs 8oz. One is a pistolgrip 28" bbl and the other a straight stocked 26" bbl.
I can highly recommend the 20g BSS in either configuration for an upland gun. If you're looking for a waterfowler, the 28" or 30" 12g may be for you. Otherwise, the 12g BSS in any barrel length or stock config is a bit heavy for my tastes, even though I hunted my 12g for many yrs of upland. My 28" F/M choked 20g with 1oz Rem Nitro Phez #5 shot swatted SoDak wild phez out of the sky this last October just like a 12g.
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It comes down to preferences. If you prefer SxS to OU, like me, a BSS is better than any Superposed ever made, IF you are buying it to shoot rather than brag, collect, or show off. If you prefer stacked barrels, then the reverse is true. As far as SxSs in general go, my BSS Sporter 20 is my favorite gun. It is not a featherweight, but neither am I. I love how it shoots for me.
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I carry the Super at the bird dog club, when training my brittney and when the weather is good during pheasant season. To be honest, I carry it because it's the best made gun in my safe and I shoot it pretty well. It points and swings like a good gun should, but I haven't hunted with any SxS's that are in the same class. I have a couple of good hammer guns(Rem1889,Tula 20g), a 10g Aya, couple of Savage/Fox guns (12g), 5 stevens 20g's for my kids etc. but nothing I would say is in the same class as the super. I did handle a SKB 100 (12) at the Athens gunshow that was super light and handled well and I saw a nice Parker Trojan that handled nicely. Maybe I'm just being goofy about liking the barrels next to each other instead of one on top and one on bottom. The grass is always greener on the other side of the... fence - gun table - sales counter.
Lloyd Purvis - Director of Collegiate Scouting College Prospects of America cpoaohiovalley@yahoo.com
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