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Originally Posted By: Oscar Gaddy
It's usually very difficult if not impossible to count them directly as you cannot usually distinguish between the welds between the individual ropes and the welds at the edge of the riband. The size of the swirl pattern on crolle Damascus is about the only way to tell. The size runs from about .5 to .6 inch width on two-iron to about 1/8 inch width on 6-iron.


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Originally Posted By: Oscar Gaddy
With all due respect, I believe that you are again confusing Belgian barrels that were labeled “laminated steel” with the higher quality British barrels that also had the same name. Belgian laminated steel barrels were nothing more than plain twist barrels and should not be compared or likened to the British laminated steel. British barrels that were labeled laminated steel were, by law, required to have a minimum of 60 % steel in the composite. High quality British laminated steel barrels did NOT look like twist barrels or have a twist pattern.. If you read Greener carefully, you will find that the barrels that came out on top in the 1888 trials were three blade (or iron) laminated steel----not twist. If you further read Greener on this subject, he describes the three blade laminated steel barrels as similar to three blade Damascus but assembled in a slightly different manner such that a herringbone pattern was produced on the barrels. They were probably assembled with the twisted ropes forming the ribands all having the same twist direction whereas normal crolle Damascus is made with the ropes having alternating twist directions. John Brindle's multi-part article on Damascus barrels in early issues of the DGJ also addresses the increased strength of Damascus compared to plain twist for welded pattern barrels.


And I remain confused
  • A 4 iron damascus barrel would have 4 Baguettes?
  • A twist barrel would not go NOT through the tordu (twisted) step?
  • A laminated barrel was a damascus with the twist arranged differently?

Pete