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I'm sure Researcher did not tell you the Fox E [Philadelphia} was built on a Parker frame. Hmmmmmmm.
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VaCollector: I'm not sure if you received my earlier PM. Since Raimey posted his thoughts which were the same as mine. If you decide to go the auction route I would recommend Ron Long at Charlton Hall Auctions & Digory Haddoke. True, Charlton Hall just completed their inagural sporting guns auction and learned a lot from that. Digory was involved in the appraisels & all gun measurements and I was highly impressed with his expertise. He will be back in June or July to appraise and measure guns for the December 2008 auction where he will also be present. Charlton Hall has been in the auction business since 1929 and has an international following. You can reach Ron at (803) 779-5678 or on his cell at (803) 466-6244. His e-mail is info@charltonhallauctions.com. He is straight as an arrow and will treat you right.
One problem in dealing with the U.K. auction houses is that they are forced to tack on a 17.5% VAT for guns being re-imported into the U.K. That, together with the shipping costs involved, would severely eat into what a qualified bidder would pay. Charlton Hall will send a bonded shipper to pick up your collection and I'm sure that Ron & Dig would travel to your place in Virginia to do the appraisels.
As also suggested I would consult with your tax attorney beforehand to learn how best to avoid excessive inheritance taxes
You seem to have an amazing and valuable collection and you must have been very special to your uncle.
Best Regards, George Lander
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Phone (803) 429-5828
To see my guns go to www.mylandco.com Select "SPORTING GUNS " My E-Mail palmettotreasure@aol.com
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Very interesting collection indeed. I second the vote for Mr. Cote, and if he cannot or chooses not to offer his opinion, he will be able to direct you towards a number of excellent professionals who will. As for the P. F. DuPont, it does not appear to be a Parker action. From the looks of it, it is a true Philadelphia action. The floor plate is a bit different than a Parker, and it lacks a dolls head and the characteristic plug screws on a Parker. Philadelphia Gun made a decent number of firearms with recessed pins similar to a Parker early on. Boy does that Frasier have beautiful case colors and wood. Updated pictures would be a wonderful treat 
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That in my opinion is a Philadelphia fox..very nice indeed
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If I were so fortunate to be in your position I would pay to have all the measurements and specifications verified by a recognized authority, including a condition report and appraisal.
..... enlist a reputable third party professional whose name can be used in the description, you eliminate a lot of the trepidation buyers have about cyber transactions. Suggestions?? Perhaps Dig, or any of the double gun geniuses working in this country, Mr. Trevallion comes to mind.
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I am not one that will ever be in the same rarified air as your fine collection, but being one that did have a bit to do with the collector car market, I have a suggestion. First, I would get no less than two but no more than three independent appraisals for each and for the collection, if purchased as a whole unit.
A call to the folks that run the "Vintagers" event may be able to give a you a suggestion or two also. No shortage of disposable income at those events.
Diggory Hadoke is the first to come to mind along with Charles Schneible of British Sporting Arms, Millbrook, NY. (www.bsa.com) The third is Toby at Heritage Guns (http://www.heritageguns.co.uk/hgframset.htm) All three have been most helpful to me with even the most mundane and trivial questions.
If I win the Lottery this week, I will send you a note and be on my way to take the entire lot off your hands!
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"Charlton Hall just completed their inagural sporting guns auction and learned a lot from that."
That has yet to be seen. The last thing you want to do with that collection is let a auction house that has not had sucess selling fine guns learn on yours.That is bad advice to "steer" (using RE term in its true meaning) someone with those guns there.
If you go with an auction house go with one that has SOLD guns in the six figures not one that is learning.
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"A Philadelphia Fox" is partially correct. Actually, "A Philadelphia Arms Company" gun (not Philadelphia Gun Company), made under the supervision of Ansley Fox, probably with the name "Fox" on the receiver.
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By the way, what's all this talk about tax obligations? I don't understand any of that. Please explain.
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