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Mike, you are right.The position of the "frame" for the lockplate fooled me for a moment. Minnehaha looks older on this gun and has not had time to braid her hair. Thanks

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Mike and all, here are a few more details of the Hiawatha gun.






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Daryl, Thanks for sharing, one of the most interesting custom shotguns I know of.

Bob, Where did you go?


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Michael, Still here. I'm working from home on one of the A&F sales record books from the 30's but if I can get into the store tomorrow I'll see if there are any old employee records. I know that there are some books with employee records, from the 50's or 60's, I believe, with things like Christmas Club accounts. I'll do a more thorough search as soon as I can. There is a journal of business minutes from when Seymour Griffin first started that I have only looked at briefly, to determine what it was. I'll have a look at that too since it dates from the 20's and that's when you believe Adoplh may have been employed there.


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Bob,

If he worked there it would have been late 20's and early 30's. He could have worked from home, wherever that might have been. There are still, even with the new information I have, a lot of missing years. I have seen several G&H rifles that I know were stocked by Adolph, where he did the work I don't know.

If you would like to talk more about the Whelen gun off line email me. I've been having nightmares of some well indented gunsmith trying to file off the pits on the outside of the barrel ;-).


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A Adolph Springfield for the rifle fans.



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Bob, have you recently uncovered any very early G&H rifle records that were previously unavailable for research? What do you consider "early" as far as research on G&H rifles is concerned? How early is information available?

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The early G&H folks were craftsmen first and bookkeepers/archivists way down the list. I have not located any records prior to their takeover by A&F except for a book of minutes from the formation of the business - mostly about ownership, name, partners, stock issuance, etc. I'll see if there is anything that I have missed, which is entirely possible. BTW, beautiful photo of the Adolph rifle. I'm going to photograph a G&H rifle tomorrow that FA is believed to have done the stock for. If the photos come out I'll post them here.


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Here's another Adolph double. This one is a 20 bore. Made for a fellow who had his son pictured on the bottom of the receiver. This gun, too, is in Adolph's catalog.






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OT..somewhat.
On Michael Petrov's Adolph Springfield rifle picture there is a feature I'd like to get the name for.
On the very nose of the comb, there is a little flared knob/projection...undercut to create the physical shape. I have this same feature on my H&R SxS 10 GA Damascus, c.early 1880s.
What is this "woodworker's gothic" feature called??
Thanks.

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