These inexpensive Frenchies make nice little Poacher's Guns. I have seen lovely little scaloped BLNE 'Helico' 20br 65mm with 27.?" tubes in good shape for $350. Now, because it's French that translates to $250 cash in Redneck county. Bubba South of Mason-Dixon does not do French (me luvs that) ;), so deep discounts can be had. Merry CHRISTmas.