Well ok then...Ted...

The question of civility always rested with you guys...I didn't wait my turn because I wanted to, it was because you guys forced me to. The fact that I grumble about being forced doesn't mean the responsibility of civility lies solely with me. We'll all see how you guys behave for the remainder of this thread.

So just so that all the readers are on the same page let's start with the Darne toggle axel. Is this the toggel lock axel that your speaking of?