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I am not even sure what I was searching for. But happened on a website the other day. I could not believe what I was reading. So, I gave this gunsmith a call. He has been taking sxs shotguns and converting them into double rifles. These are not elephant stoppers. But they will handle everything except the largest bears with no problems.  We chatted for a time on the phone. He sleeves the sxs and bushes the firing pin. He regulates the gun and installs iron sights. He does all this in about 60 days and charges $650.00 if you supply the shotgun. He prefers to chamber them for either 45-70 or 45-90. Exactly how many chamberings he is willing to work with, we did not discuss. He states that 45-70 can be loaded to modern lever action pressures. Here is his website: http://www.angelfire.com/sd/rgs1/work.html His name is: Daniel Ruppelt 31049 ERS Rd. Springfield, SD 57062 605-369-2636 Pete
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Hello ,iam new to this form. I have been building double rifles for about 4 years on Baikal actions (Remington/Spartan) and am looking forward to other peoples insight.
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RD, I am interested in having you build one for me. I have quite a few English doubles that would be suitable for this. I'll try and phone you tomorrow.
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Casper45/Mike, I have one on gun broker (item #57676029) it is in 4570. You can go to shot gun world and click on i love my Baikal/ Spartan forumthen click on Sticky: Baikal / SPR O/U, SxS,Single shot,& Pump Picture Thread
[ Goto page: 1, 2, 3 ] there you can view some of my guns. RDShow
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Peter m, From what i can see of that old hammer gun it should never be loaded with any thing but trapdoor equivalent loads. I dont know the mfg. of that gun (looks like cheap Belgn.)but the quality of the steel is in question.RDShow
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Not my gun! Just a pic from his website.
How do you regulate the barrels on the guns you make?
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It's amazing you can tell from a fuzzy photo that gun should not be fired except with "trapdoor" loads, and the quality of the steel is in question!! Any yet you state you build on Baikal actions?? Rather like the pot calling the kettle black!! I don't know what the gun is either, but it appears identical in every way, even to the precise shape of the hammers, to a J P Sauer hammer gun I have which has Krupp barrels. It may not be a Sauer, and may indeed be a Belgian gun. There are many, many good quality Belgian guns around in addition to the many JABC's. I don't intend to blindly defend this guy, I don't know him from Adam, but he's apparently been doing this longer than you have. It might behoove you to tread a bit more carefully here before making such blind accusations. Just my $.02 worth.
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Hey, Chief, I recall getting the same treatment from lots of folks around here and much worse even when I proposed the same thing on a similar gun. Which side of that mudpile did you fall on?
Brent
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I can't recall that "mudpile," sorry Brent. I suspect my view would have been consistant with the above opinion. Apparently one of the major factors in choosing a shotgun to convert into a double rifle is the original proofing of the shotgun. Those with black powder only proofs could be suspect, those with more modern Nitro proofing are more attractive for such conversions. Stronger "magnum" proofing would be a plus, although not often encountered on older guns. The Sauer I mentioned does have Nitro proofs, and could be a twin of the gun pictured. It leads me to think there is at least a possibility the gun pictured might be more suitable than Mr. Show suggests. Just a possibility, I can't identify the gun either.
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Chief, Just as you cannot tell it a bad one ,i can not tell it a good one. I have been a gunsmith for 40 yrs. as for the baikal actions any one who hasany knowledge of them would know they are a well built action. Aso they are one of if not the largest arms mfg. in the world. Droppind a sleeve down a shotgun bbl. does not make a double rifle. I look at the gun and i see the fit around the locks and it looks cheap. All i am saying is the gun dont look like it will take 44,000 lbs of pressure. the bbls would if they are quality steel but have questions as to whether the action will. RdShow
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