Hey Chuck H! I am so glad to hear that you are one of the few Californians that doesnt belong to a duck club, buy shares in a pheasant co-op or pay trespass fees to hunt quail. You are fortunate, but PROLLY dont get out much. I agree with the Gentleman from Texas on the point of Texans having done a great deal for wildlife, and surprisingly, to me, a person can actually still find a few places to hunt, feeless, if they are willing to ask the real farmers and ranchers permission. Re: Chuck H's comments on the liberal bay area, DUH! dont live there anymore. I am very opinionated and emotional on the problem of leased properties decaying the land area for many hunters. AND I still dont care what happens in California...