Derrick, tread cautiously when contemplating buying a SBT or for that matter, any trap gun. Trap shooters are notorious for fiddling with the guns they shoot. As the old german master gunsmith at VL&A in Chicago once admonished: "Ach, you damned trapshooters butcher guns! Vhat makes you think you can make a better gun than the folks vhat made it? Ach, dummies und damned butchers!" I know of at least one guy whose initials are WCS who was fortunate enough to find an unmessed with Ithaca SBT 7. Let the buyer beware in this field. Chopperump
