Well, thats the kind of response I would expect from a Californian. And prolly a Democrat. The thing people like you dont get, is that if all of us farmers made our land available to hunt, and all you defeatists would quit trying to post your lil piece of it, we'd all be happier. I dont care what happens in California, it ceased being part of the real world a long time ago. FYI, I know what I am talking about, Graduated Palo Alto high school and Stanford U. If I ever go back to Californa it will be by accident....go buy some birds. Also the fact that I allow hunting on my ground is not a "gift", its my right and privilege. lose, not loose, rediculous dont got no e in it..