RM. Thanks for reply. Montana, Thanks also. RM Now I remember you & and your'H G Wells'Time Machine at SandiKnowna' We all gathered at the Shooting Sportspeople's Booth. You 'Span...Spun..Spinned??? My Gun in the White....I even had your Machine here at The MoPM. Vic Ventors was trying to explain the "Principle of MOi". McIntosh & self have just been talking to a'Curious Reader"....I have his 11 lb Westley Richards .450 Nitro DB.He ask's' Have you evaluated a Rifle of this'Magnitude'?? I have increased the length with a 3/4" ebony L/P.and a 3/4" Kick-ezz'Padand Installed a "Merc" Recoil Reducer. It points like a shotgun,Recoil, about that of a 30-30. Have yet to find the POB'(Ran out of Ammo, Fired 11rds)Most Interested in this subject now!!!! cc/dt