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Originally Posted by Geoff Roznak
Originally Posted by keith
I'm here to try to blow up another thread with angry, ranting lies, name calling, and insults to try to provoke a reaction I'm not worthy of.

Did you know I have no integrity at all and don't pay my bets?

Yes, we know all of that. It's fun to watch you try...and fail again, and again, and again, to get what you want while you show everyone your ass.

Here's a teaser for you: I've got a surprise coming for you.

Most will love it.

You'll hate it.

Try to guess what it is.

...and where's my $2,000?

Sounds like a threat TransGomer Joff... a threat from a pudgy little Liberal Left beta male.

You keep saying I owe you money. Why don't you show us why you believe that?

I did offer to engage in a wager with you... but you ran from it like a coward.

While you're at it, when do you plan to reveal all of those other forums you claim to run, or help run? I'm sure everyone would love to see how a chubby little Napoleon runs his vast forum empire (with over 80,000 members).

Do you engage in the same sort of Trolling and false Quote manufacturing like you do in every post you make here?

You won't answer this Joff... because you're only here to Troll and support anti-gun Democrats.

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Originally Posted by keith
Short version, in order: Fantasy, I owe you money, everyone knows, lie, irrational nonsense to cover up that I'm afraid to go look, another fantasy/lie, and fake blustery challenge that I don't have the guts to make in peson because I'm a coward.

...and I have no personal integrity - I don't pay off on bets I lose.

We know.

...but you didn't guess what my surprise is going to be, sweetie. Why not? Are you afraid?

You're going to hate it, but others are going to laugh for weeks.

It'll be fun...for us. Not so much for you.

...and where's my $2000?

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As a matter of fact the youth programs are booming in California. High schools have shooting teams and are even in the local (Sacramento) news occasionally..
And they're not shooting SxS guns for obvious reasons

The demonized California is BS. You believing it doesn't make it so.

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Originally Posted by Wonko the Sane
As a matter of fact the youth programs are booming in California. High schools have shooting teams and are even in the local (Sacramento) news occasionally..
And they're not shooting SxS guns for obvious reasons

The demonized California is BS. You believing it doesn't make it so.

There is plenty of demonizing to go around, Dr. Sane:

https://www.americanexperiment.org/dfl-lead-ammo-bill-threatens-popular-school-shooting-teams/

This was just an attempt to make youth shooting sports more expensive and to limit the popularity of same, here in the second craziest state of the union. They failed. Good.

You know, the hormone blockers are free at the high school, right? Always makes me ponder the nonexistent concern “for the ‘chirens” over lead shot when I look down that rabbit hole, here.

Doubles? There was a young lady that shot on my son’s league, using grandma’s SKB model 150 20 gauge SXS. She shot my sons Mossberg 500 12 gauge much better. But, she didn’t care.

Grandma got her involved, and was in the stands cheering for her. I was, too. Yea, she was the outlier. So what?

There were no high school trap leagues when I was in high school, much less with entire squads of teenage girls kicking ass and taking names. There has been plenty of hand wringing from the usual suspects about the wisdom of what is happening, but, the cat is out of the bag, and despite efforts like the one I linked to, above, little can be done at this point to hamper what are the fastest growing sports in high school.

The usual suspects, are everywhere.

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And where have the 2A Fed guys been repealing the Fed lead bans ?


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Originally Posted by Wonko the Sane
And where have the 2A Fed guys been repealing the Fed lead bans ?

I’ve heard nothing about that. Source?

The thing is, the clubs around here reclaim the lead to be sold every few years. It is done under state supervision. That typically can’t happen in a duck slew, so, the ban serves a purpose, in that case.

I wouldn’t be on board for changing the Federal ban, without some evidence that supported same.

The people trying to force the lead ban down the throats of the clubs here in Minnesota had all the facts, saw there was minimal concern for the precious ‘chilrens shooting with lead ammunition there, and, in their infinite wisdom, tried, hard, to stuff it anyway. It goes without saying this was not a bipartisan issue, know what I’m saying?

Of course you do.

The Federal bans have been in place most of my life. You have evidence, to support overturning the Federal lead ban, I’ll listen. Otherwise, I got other hills to die on,

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Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
The people trying to force the lead ban down the throats of the clubs here in Minnesota had all the facts, saw there was minimal concern for the precious ‘chilrens shooting with lead ammunition there, and, in their infinite wisdom, tried, hard, to stuff it anyway. It goes without saying this was not a bipartisan issue, know what I’m saying?

Of course you do.

Somebody please make it make sense....

We have gun owners who vote for 100% anti-gun Democrats... who when elected pass more and more legislation restricting guns, ammunition, and hunting. Who could see that coming?

Then these same Liberal Left Democrat Gun Owners cry and complain that the NRA, GOA, and other Gun Rights organizations aren't doing enough to repeal the anti-gun laws that they themselves are ultimately responsible for.

As if that wasn't bad enough, these same gun owners who elect the anti-gunners will then claim to be "staunch supporters of Gun Rights"... you can't make this shit up!

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Originally Posted by Wonko the Sane
And where have the 2A Fed guys been repealing the Fed lead bans ?

They've been out buying suppressors, and short barreled ARs, like your bubby JM mentioned on one of the locked threads, thank you Mr President. By the way, your booming kali high school shooting teams, may be more of a fizzle. The organizing body reluctantly reports about eleven hundred members in the world's fifth largest economy, thank you camala.

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Gee, how exciting, suppressors and short barreled AR's. Now there is something I really could not care less about. Something to distract some of you from the mess this administration is causing I guess. Another war we don't need, gas prices through the roof, illegal tariffs, the dollar dropping like a rock, trade wars with our former allies, the deficit growing at an unprecedented rate.

On the bright side, billionaires got a much needed tax break while the rest of us pay the price. Trickle down economics at its finest. Yes Craig, all thanks to the felon in chief.

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When I was a kid in rural KY the mix at the local gun club was probably 40% autos 45% pumps 8% o/u and the rest sxs,bolts,singles. Browning a5s and model 12s were held in high regard. As to the younger generation I think that there will be some sxs affection but it won’t be as much vintage guns that aren’t steel rated and shoot hard to find ammo. It’s good to remember that forms such as this one is patronized by a very small % of the gun owning population and irs easy to get the impression that there are more like us than there are. But ithink the guys that buy the CZ sxs guns and the Yilddze ?. will continue.i think that predicting the pump’s demise is premature as it is still pretty widely used in the turkey woods, slug hunting, waterfowl and don’t forget tactical, plus there are millions out there in the hands of hunters that don’t necessarily frequent the shooting enthusiast web world. The hunting shooting world I enjoyed is largely gone. Land access is largely gone unless willing to pay $$$ so I think sporting gun ownership will decline dramatically with succeeding generations . The tactical mkt will continue but it will do so without me.

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