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Wolfgang via KI(Künstliche Intelligenz)/Ai(psudeo version of course, has found some most interesting info on the Berlin contingent of Retailers like Ludwig Schiwy, Ernst Steigledger, etc. along with Otto Gottlieb Scherell(Ballistol), Horst Goeldel(Probably the Best German Shot of all times), where members of the Jagd-Klub Diana Berlin dominated the Shooting Circuit and peddled their wares whilst doing so. Other actual makers like Paul Collath, Franz Collath, Franz Kettner also were fantastic competitors and also used the circuit & events for sales. This is a very similar modell that Charles Daly used to tout, as well as sell, his wares making a small fortune along the way. There's a tonne of info via KI and I will get it sorted.
Basically what these competitions did was to protect the German mechanics from being over-run w/ foreign made platforms. Take the above mentioned retailers, the pressed their wares w/ their name atop into service and proved thru stout competition that their platforms were superior.
Top shooters of interest were Horst Goeldel of Berlin/Grunewald, Gustav Koch of Derneburg, Dr. Rudolf Sack of Leipzig/Düsseldorf, and Dr. Kurt Schoebel.
But they may not have held a candle to Franz Denk driving the Omnibus to the Vienna Shooting Grounds.
Much more later....
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Too, I forgot to note Albert Preusß, the Technical Director of the German Hunting Klubs. He looked to be QA/AC between Shooters & Makers/Mechanics.
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Just received on Wednesday: a "Vandrey" Drilling, actually made by Sauer & Sohn, proofed 1035, in stunning quality. Serial number in the 6000s.
I think the Sauer ledger had been sort of rediscovered in the Suhl town archive some years. So research might be possible
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Indeed, the Sauer & Sohn ledger is in the basement of the Old Suhl Jail in the archives.
Pleasure us w/ some fotos or forward some to me & I will get them posted.
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Have not forgotten your inquiry Raimey. The trick is to find out the correct model number. As I learned, the Latin and the Arab numerals are not sequential, and a Model XXX is a totally different gun from a Model 30.
Anyhow, my Drilling is either a Model 30 or 32. It does not have the usual left side safety, like most, but instead the external swinging safety lever which blocks the cocking pieces. Called "Schlagstücksicherung", which probably was a special order upgrade.
The quality is very high; engraving is "feine Englische Arabesken", with the accentuation on "fine", and its execution is better than of the most Sauer game scenes. Overall, if compared to the well-known and highly esteemed ($$$$) normal Mod 30 Luftwaffendrilling, mine is by far the better gun.
I do not own Jim Cate's book (which is quite expensive - when you find it -; it costs more than *I* paid for this Drilling), and the former Swedish Sauer collectors' website of P.O. Haggards seems sadly defunct. Would anybody have access to the reprinted 1938 Sauer catalog?
Regards,
Carcano
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