The reason I used the term "slam" when talking about a Ljutic, Jim, is because you can't just close them up like a lever action SXS. There is a button in front of the trigger guard on the Ljutic that has to be pressed in and you can't shut them by just closing them. To close the gun up, you would really have to force them shut by slamming them if you didn't depress the button. A buddy of mine did this recently and it jammed the button to the point where he couldn't get the gun open. If you ever handle one you will see what I mean. If you tried to close them up easily without using the button, they wouldn't close. You would have to slam them shut. That is why I used that term......... And on one of his shows a few years ago, Jim, Dez talked about starting out in the business. He started on TV with a local kids show. This is when he started singing........... And Joe, you are right about making noise while shooting trap these days with the speaker system. This is why people have so much trouble when shooting a Model 12. About the time they put a shell in the gun and tip it forward to let the shell side into the gun, they close the gun just before someone calls for a target and it screws things up. If they don't time their loading just right, they can really make a mess of things. Good luck.
