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To the question of whether the vitriol pushes quality people away from this site, it's obvious to anyone who socializes with vintage double enthusiasts that it does. In my small group of friends and fellow collectors, I can count over 10 who won't get involved here or have left, specifically because of "that guy". I'm asked regularly "what's the deal? Why is he still allowed on there?"

These are quality people. Who could contribute in significant ways. The site is poorer for them not being here.

It long ago stopped being about politics or gun rights. I'm as every bit anti gun regulation as Keith is. But I'm on his shit list because I largely disagree with his tactic of personal attacks.

I hang out with some Democrat voting American hunters and gun owners. Until they met me, they hung around with NO ONE who wasn't a progressive liberal. Sure there is hypocrisy in their views and voting patterns but most of us aren't perfect. The idea of completely cutting out 50% of the population because of their political views is just stupid. It doesn't matter which side is doing it. The polarization actually is a problem. So is most progressive ideology. But the solution sure isn't shunning.

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Originally Posted by SKB
Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
It ‘ain’t just Keith….


Best,
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No, it isn't Ted, but the one common denominator in these 11 pages of documented past feuds on this board is keith. wink

All my best,
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Funny.

Best,
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Originally Posted by canvasback
To the question of whether the vitriol pushes quality people away from this site, it's obvious to anyone who socializes with vintage double enthusiasts that it does. In my small group of friends and fellow collectors, I can count over 10 who won't get involved here or have left, specifically because of "that guy". I'm asked regularly "what's the deal? Why is he still allowed on there?"

These are quality people. Who could contribute in significant ways. The site is poorer for them not being here.

It long ago stopped being about politics or gun rights. I'm as every bit anti gun regulation as Keith is. But I'm on his shit list because I largely disagree with his tactic of personal attacks.

I hang out with some Democrat voting American hunters and gun owners. Until they met me, they hung around with NO ONE who wasn't a progressive liberal. Sure there is hypocrisy in their views and voting patterns but most of us aren't perfect. The idea of completely cutting out 50% of the population because of their political views is just stupid. It doesn't matter which side is doing it. The polarization actually is a problem. So is most progressive ideology. But the solution sure isn't shunning.

James,
You know, Earnest Hemingway warned someone in his sphere that he better figure out how to get along with leftists, because they were going to take over the world.

I believe Hemingway did his best to do exactly that. He made his home in Cuba, and didn’t appear to have any public animosity toward Fidel Castro. But, in the end, Castro seized his home, and all of its contents, and it was pretty clear that Ol Papa wasn’t going to have a place in Castro’s “vision” of Cuba. We had some guys right here detailing how they had “curated” the contents of Hemingways home, which, the commies had pretty much neglected and allowed the joint and the contents to fall into ruin.

First, shame on any idiot that shows up at a crime scene, decades after the event, to lend credibility to the criminals who perpetrated the crime. They are the bigger criminals, in my opinion, than the thieves.

But, make no mistakes, the thieves are right near them.

I having a tough time watching the actions of those who gave us corrupted elections, and how they have gone from “most secure election on record” to “well there was some fraud, but, not enough to sway the results” to “ well, there was more fraud than we thought” to “ well, what is done is done, deal with it, loser”.

Yea, I’m not hanging out with many on the other side of the fence these days.

Best,
Ted

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Originally Posted by keith
Another in an endless series of wordy, angry childish posts that no one will ever read. I live to attack and provoke others, but can't stand it when those same tactics are turned back on me and I overreact with even more infantile, emotional attacks.

My Mommy told me I was special! Why can't you all see that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah...whatever.

About that $1,000?????


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The NRA has proven itself unreliable and corrupt. Period.
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Originally Posted by keith
More ducking and dodging for why I won't settle the $1,000 bet, and why I won't take the new wager offered.


Normal.


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The NRA has proven itself unreliable and corrupt. Period.
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Originally Posted by keith
Of course, we'll never know what precipitated the bitterness you have toward Larry, because you are attacking him while he is dying, and cannot even defend himself. Larry and I didn't get along, but I didn't react like you when I heard the news that he is very sick and dying. You and I are not the same... thank God!

You have no idea how I reacted to the news of the ordeal Larry is dealing with. Nor does anyone else here.

But you are a coward, and won't stand behind your own words...what about that $1,000???


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Originally Posted by canvasback
To the question of whether the vitriol pushes quality people away from this site, it's obvious to anyone who socializes with vintage double enthusiasts that it does. In my small group of friends and fellow collectors, I can count over 10 who won't get involved here or have left, specifically because of "that guy". I'm asked regularly "what's the deal? Why is he still allowed on there?"

These are quality people. Who could contribute in significant ways. The site is poorer for them not being here.

It long ago stopped being about politics or gun rights. I'm as every bit anti gun regulation as Keith is. But I'm on his shit list because I largely disagree with his tactic of personal attacks.

I hang out with some Democrat voting American hunters and gun owners. Until they met me, they hung around with NO ONE who wasn't a progressive liberal. Sure there is hypocrisy in their views and voting patterns but most of us aren't perfect. The idea of completely cutting out 50% of the population because of their political views is just stupid. It doesn't matter which side is doing it. The polarization actually is a problem. So is most progressive ideology. But the solution sure isn't shunning.

Well said. Too bad more people won't stand up to his nonsense.


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Ted,

You may want to consider accessing a collection of related studies

https://factually.co/topics/voter-fraud-in-the-us


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Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted by canvasback
To the question of whether the vitriol pushes quality people away from this site, it's obvious to anyone who socializes with vintage double enthusiasts that it does. In my small group of friends and fellow collectors, I can count over 10 who won't get involved here or have left, specifically because of "that guy". I'm asked regularly "what's the deal? Why is he still allowed on there?"

These are quality people. Who could contribute in significant ways. The site is poorer for them not being here.

It long ago stopped being about politics or gun rights. I'm as every bit anti gun regulation as Keith is. But I'm on his shit list because I largely disagree with his tactic of personal attacks.

I hang out with some Democrat voting American hunters and gun owners. Until they met me, they hung around with NO ONE who wasn't a progressive liberal. Sure there is hypocrisy in their views and voting patterns but most of us aren't perfect. The idea of completely cutting out 50% of the population because of their political views is just stupid. It doesn't matter which side is doing it. The polarization actually is a problem. So is most progressive ideology. But the solution sure isn't shunning.

James,
You know, Earnest Hemingway warned someone in his sphere that he better figure out how to get along with leftists, because they were going to take over the world.

I believe Hemingway did his best to do exactly that. He made his home in Cuba, and didn’t appear to have any public animosity toward Fidel Castro. But, in the end, Castro seized his home, and all of its contents, and it was pretty clear that Ol Papa wasn’t going to have a place in Castro’s “vision” of Cuba. We had some guys right here detailing how they had “curated” the contents of Hemingways home, which, the commies had pretty much neglected and allowed the joint and the contents to fall into ruin.

First, shame on any idiot that shows up at a crime scene, decades after the event, to lend credibility to the criminals who perpetrated the crime. They are the bigger criminals, in my opinion, than the thieves.

But, make no mistakes, the thieves are right near them.

I having a tough time watching the actions of those who gave us corrupted elections, and how they have gone from “most secure election on record” to “well there was some fraud, but, not enough to sway the results” to “ well, there was more fraud than we thought” to “ well, what is done is done, deal with it, loser”.

Yea, I’m not hanging out with many on the other side of the fence these days.

Best,
Ted

Pogo was thinking of you "we have met the enemy and it is us"

The country is divided because of people with your attitude.

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Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted by SKB
Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
It ‘ain’t just Keith….


Best,
Ted

No, it isn't Ted, but the one common denominator in these 11 pages of documented past feuds on this board is keith. wink

All my best,
Steve

Funny.

Best,
Ted

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I clearly see more than one common denominator.

And accurate....keith is the one right in the center of every one of these feuds.

Shame your bias clouds your vision so.

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